I doubt it Jim. I didn't know John all that well really. I was in his shop a lot in the early to late 90's, I was in my late 20's then. I took his rod building class and built a Sage 490 LL, talked pike on the fly several times, and asked him a hundred times to re-tell the story of that world record on 2 lb tippet. That man lived 2 lifetimes of fishing.