6wt or 7wt for a switch...

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  1. Josh

    Josh dead in the water

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    Well, I'm not likely to turn down an offer to try out a rod.
     
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    I didn't know how to describe how I felt about the 7 wt. Now I know. Thanks.
     
  3. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    i think i get it now. a 7wt switch is awkward for single handed casting, right ?
     
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    hookedonthefly Active Member

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    I have a particular 7 wt that I have not found a line that makes casting intuitive which is the way I think two-handed rods should feel. That 7 switch is awkward when spey casting. We tried several lines on a 7wt Z-Axis switch. It was fine but but still felt kind of weird. I am sure there are folks out there who love their 7 wts but Derek's description matched my feelings about the few I've cast.
     
  5. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    so the zaxis 7wt is awkward for spey asting. what lines were you throwing on it? scandi, skagit, or both? i've only thrown the 8wt zwitch. i really liked it with a sandi at 28' . didnt try it with a skagit. some rods just have a narrower grain window. and what a differene there can be between 7 wts. burkie 7117 about 450 for scandi, winston 7110 about 325. so, really, one should be a 5 and the other an 8. where do they come up with those numbers anyway? and how ould anyone decide on a rod weight based on an arbitrary number? i dont, but i would use my 6119 tcx for small steelhead, if i had to, but no way on that winston 7.
    but then i prefer to land fish quikly.
     
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    fredaevans Active Member

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    The real major difference (all things considered sort of thing) between a 6 and a 7 is what you want/need in the way of sinking tips. With a 6 your pretty much restricted to sinking poly leaders or short runs of T 8 or 11. With the extra line grain weights with a 7 larger/heavier heads, larger flies, etc.
     
  7. Buzzby

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    I'm considering my first 6wt switch purchase and wondered if anyone has experience enough to recommend either a Beulah, TFO, Echo, or CTS? Good vs bad points, etc.
     
  8. SpeySpaz

    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    I have a 7110 Z-Axis for smaller flows, smaller steel; a 4 wt Echo SR that is an absolute joy to cast for trout; and I traded my Beulah 4/5 to a guy in Canoodia for a Guideline LeCie 7/8 switch, which in America would be considered a 6. It is an absolute hoot for skating dries, it's like a little Skandi fishbroom. I think a hot summer steelhead would have her way with you on a 6 wt switch.
     
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    SpeySpaz,
    This would be for trout and the local landlocks. What didn't you like about the Beulah?
     
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    SpeySpaz still an authority on nothing

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    the Beulah is a wonderful rod, but I was looking for a scandi taper with more snap for underhanding.
     
  11. Steve Saville

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    Damn it!!! I succumbed to desire...again. I filled out the line-up with a smokin' deal on a TCX 6119. Of course, I didn't need it but then again, I have a great small river rod or if the spirit moves me,a great salt water salmon rod from the beach or whatever suits my fancy. I need to go to a group session somewhere to get some help.:)
     
  12. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    unfortunately our 12 step program just leads you downstream thru the run more quickly. sages are a gateway drug. eventually you may get hooked on burkies. they are the heroin of graphite, but it feels like ecstasy.
     
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    fredaevans Active Member

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    Just personal observation as to when you'll probably (fish, flow, river, yada-yada) use, but a 6 in a short 2hander.
     
  14. Frenchie

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    I have a 4, 6 and 7 weight switch rods...

    I se the 4 for our local cutthroat and rainbows. The 6 is for bulls and big sculpins. The 7 is for steelhead.

    Done

    Jon
     
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    Honestly, is there that much of a difference? For what you're thinking of, either would be fine. I have a 7 wt. switch and consider it perfect for summer runs on small waters. Of course, I have a 5 wt. switch too and couldn't think of any compelling reason to have something in between.
     
  16. Dan Page

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    Had a 6 wt and a 7wt switch and sold the 7 for an 8 to use with the bigger tips/flies.
    But that's just me. If I were to have only one I'd do serious research on the 7's that are available.
     
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    I have a few different lines for my 7 wt Z-Axis and have found the Rio Scandi Short Versitip in #7 a perfect match. I have a traditional Scandi line for that rod that I do not find as easy to cast, and a Skagit line that works great but I just don't use much because I'm typically using the 7 wt. Z to fish small flies on a floater or light tip.
     
  18. Jim Darden

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    Josh.....go see Ed or Scott at our local fly shop down at the Harbor Mall. They can steer you through the maze and get you a matched combination you will love. There is nothing worse (nor more expensive) than a mismatched outfit.
     
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    I bought a cheap Cabelas 6wt 11'6"recently as my first try at a switch rod. So, far I like it, but seems a little bit on the light side for big fish. I'm going to try it on the summer steel head on the Stilly. I then plan to go into see Ed and Scott at Confluence later in the year for an upgrade (probably TFO Deercreek 7wt). I think I'll keep the 6wt for Dollys or large Rainbows.
     

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