being crude

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Rob Allen, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. cuponoodle breakfast gritty

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    Swearing doesn't bother me. I swear plenty. A rant on angler language would be better spent on new anglers butchering river names to make their own river-nick-names and talking about "ripping lips" and "steel faces."
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  2. Evan Virnoche Guest

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    Sound like Someone is bottom hurt. I post on several other forums and out of all of them this is g rated.
  3. Lugan Joe Streamer

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    So stop fishing near other people. I almost never see another soul when I fish.
  4. Salmo_g Active Member

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    American language and culture is coarsening Rob. We're in a race with ourselves devolving to the least common knuckle dragger. Since it's devolution, it's not hard to keep up with. In fact it's harder to stay above it. Good luck.

    "Steel faces," the language of assholes.

    Sg
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  5. Ed Call Mumbling Moderator

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    I believe I can blend in to most groups, regardless of their use of language, abbreviations, angling techniques, generation or beverage preferences. Sometimes I blend, some times I rebel, sometimes I walk away.
  6. bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    I like your style ed, Just because someone has a difference in opinion doesn't make them bad
  7. Ed Call Mumbling Moderator

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    A lot of cool things can happen around a campfire after a long cold day of fishing, or mid day on a gravel bar during a lunch and warmup break. My mind is open...most of the time.
  8. underachiever !

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    I think most people who are crude are trying to be funny or entertaing and just aren't. It's totally possible to be crude and funny but it's the lowest common denominator of humor so most of it just comes off as stale.
  9. bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    Heres the deal , if we all think the same what are we going to talk about???
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  10. triploidjunkie Active Member

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    It's ok. Someday you'll hit puberty and it will all make sense: the swearing, the drinking, sex. You may be surprised and actually like sex.
  11. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    There is nothing wrong with sitting around a campfire after a day of fishing with friends. We all drink, swear, pick our asses, give each other a bad time. If watching videos turns you off, don't watch them. There is a button there that you don't have to click on.

    Some people need to cuss to keep from exploding. I'm one of them. Besides I'm old and old men don't give a damn what we say anymore. So there. Fuck it.
  12. sopflyfisher Active Member

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    For me i could care less about language,i work with loggers so its nothing new. I do believe in cleaning it up a bit around ladies or kids. What is annoying is the dumbasses that think fly fishing is gangster or something. Sg got it right. Steel faces?????? Truly the language of idiots. These are folks who get WA plate tires slashed in bc and the like. I mean its fishing for gods sake it don't make y tough or gangster. I mean just cause u got dubs on your range rover and smoke the chronic doesn't mean u need to act like your tupacs cousin who can't rap but can rip the lips of a steel face. Oh yeah i saw the video the original poster i think saw on moldy chum. Yes those dudes are tool boxes. They probably need a punch in the mouth. I guarantee it would be a first for those pussies, hell they would probably cry and call their lawyer. Real gangster i tell you.
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  13. Brady Burmeister Active Member

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    I am tired of fly fishermen's apparent inability to follow the basic rules of English grammar when posting to a fly fishing internet forum. Have we no respect for this language? I don't think it's an unreasonable request to proofread your work before posting. I am not saying we all must develop the prose and wordsmithing of James Joyce, but must we all be subjected to run-on sentences containing two independent clauses and lacking basic punctuation? Are we not adults?


    Edit: Never mind. I'm sorry. This lunacy musta sounded ridiculous and absurdly judgmental.
  14. Steve Saville Active Member

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    We speak and act to the level of our company. If it is restrained, we restrain ourselves. If it is crude, we have the option to be crude or remain restrained and just listen, read, watch, or walk away. When I was a construction worker, I talked at a level those around me understood. When I started teaching, I had to temper my mouth and my demeanor changed. It isn't that hard if you "engage brain before mouth."
  15. Drifter Active Member

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    I had a conversation with a buddy who is a trout bait fisherman this last spring and he hates how the "fly fisherman thinks they are better than everyone else" and many of these post just prove the attitude as a whole of fly fisherman.

    Better then thou
    Talk this way
    Don't act this way
    my gear is better than yours
    I know more than you

    It just goes on and on. knuckle dragging - mouth breathing - toothless - non spelling - cussing assholes - yep I'm one of them!

    Even my daughter knows there are two languages - one for home and one for the outdoors and racing!

    After a couple years on this site I would invite a few to my fire - Rob you would not be one of them, but I already knew that from your "Ifish" everyone else is an idiot posts.

    Everyone should know by now I have no grammar and can't spell and have nothing to offer to you so don't read my posts when you see them. signed : fucking mouth breathing - knuckle dragging - inbred - toothless fisherman.

    When everyone else is wrong some people think it's time to look at self!
  16. _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

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    I think you are seriously over-estimating my abilities...:)
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  17. Drifter Active Member

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    I like that Steve.

    When I started coaching girls fast-pitch softball at ages 13 to 16 I had to curve my railroad building construction mouth and be polite!

    And no one had to teach me how - imagine that!
  18. Evan Virnoche Guest

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    i would like to believe because i do fly fish that i am superior to bait/ gear guys (not in the sense i am a better person). but instead have a sense of pride in fly fishing when i hook a fish knowing that much more finesse and trickery was involved. However i dont go runnning around trying to convert people. I really only talk to other fly fisherman on the water.

    ps grammar sucks. i barely even english
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  19. Kcahill Active Member

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    I don't care about the crude\swearing\language, but holy christ if there are people with kids\families around fishing watch your mouth. I talk to more gear guys then I do fly guys on the water, and dont have an issue with them.
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  20. Evan Burck Fudge Dragon

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    What exactly is this "fly fishing culture" being spoke of? Last I checked, fly fishing was an activity enjoyed by a wide range of people.

    I've never understood the problem with "crude language." They're just words. I can say "oh gosh gawlly shucky darn" and nobody would bat an eye.. If I say "oh fuck all goddammit" certain types cringe and get offended. Both statements mean the exact same thing in that context. I see no difference.

    If you have a problem with people who do the things you described, then don't associate yourself with them. One thing i love about fishing is the wide variety of people I have found common ground with and enjoy the company of on the water. I fish with republicans, democrats, christians, atheists, pot heads, scientists, engineers, ministers, recovering drug addicts, soldiers, musicians, and the list goes on... I would get bored with you all right quick if we all subscribed the same ideologies.

    So, in short: fuck it. I'm fine with all the things you complain about. I make no apologies for my choice of vocabulary.