Keeping Brookies?

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by 10incher, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. bakerite Active Member

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    Here in NE Oregon there is no limit on the # of brook trout you can keep except for a few exceptions. They tend to overpopulate. They also seem to out compete the native redbands in the lakes where both species are present, taking the best parts of the habitat and being fatter. If anyone wants to fill the smoker, come on down!
  2. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    It feeds the Wolves and Cougars
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  3. scottr Active Member

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    This is interesting. There really isn't a difference. At least when they get thrown on the bank the biomass stays within the watershed.
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  4. scottr Active Member

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    Don't get us started on wolves ;)
  5. 10incher Active Member

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    I totally agree. I was just pointing out the rules. Plus... I'm just a little too selfish to trade a trout in the pan for it's usefulness as "biomass".
  6. Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Folks toss spawned-out salmon carcasses on the bank to enrich the riparian ecosystem . . .

    K
  7. 10incher Active Member

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    Yes, but I don't like the way those taste!
  8. scottr Active Member

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    You just need to put them in the smoker
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  9. 10incher Active Member

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    Good idea. On the other hand, you could put toads in a smoker and I'd probably like them.
  10. Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    Actually Bullfrogs are very good smoked and you can catch them on fly gear
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  11. Smalma Active Member

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    Interesting discussion.

    Should it be expanded to those pretty west-slope cutthroat that are exotics in many Washington streams and lakes or rainbows and browns on those blue ribbon Montana rivers?

    Curt
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  12. Bonefish Jack Strictly FF

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    I am not so sure about this. Several years ago, I had an e-mail exchange with the regional fish biologist asking if the 10" size limit also applied to Brook Trout in the SF. He assured me that the 10" limit applied to all trout (and char) in the SF. I thought that was kinda weird, but I had my answer.

    Now, the regs may have changed since then, but that is what I was told ... Might be worth another e-mail ...
  13. Chris Selvar Member

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    shame on me but I caught a Brookie out of the SF sno two weekends ago that was easily 12inches probably closer to 14, and let it go... I have a picture of it on my camera that I will try posting when I get home
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  14. 10incher Active Member

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    In the seven years I've been here it seems like the WDFW "refines" definitions and wording in the regs to clarify the same rules each year. But I can assure you that as it reads this year EBT (eastern brook trout) are NOT part of the "trout" definition and therefor NOT subject to the minimum size for "trout". They would fall under "Other Game Fish" which is "Statewide min size/daily limit". And for EBT (eastern brook trout) that is five of any size. To be clear the trout limit would be five with no more than two being CT or RB of ten inches or more.
  15. Chris Bellows The Thought Train

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    wdfw game wardens on streams with brookies....

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    you're more likely to win the powerball lottery.
  16. 10incher Active Member

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    If I caught a 13" brookie I would have a hard time bonking it and depriving other fishermen of the pleasure. Very forgivable IMHO.
  17. 10incher Active Member

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    I was talking about the guy your going to try debating with when you show up to arbitrate your citation. Not the guy that's going to give you the citation.
  18. 10incher Active Member

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    Re reading the rules I think Jack may be on to something. Even though EBT are subtext, they ARE listed under TROUT. So I think the 10" minimum for the Snoqualmie may well apply. One contention I have is that dollies are also subtext under TROUT. And I'm pretty sure keeping a dolly under 20" could get you a citation even in waters where they aren't singled out from TROUT. Just sayin' Maybe we do need some clarity on this.
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  19. triploidjunkie Active Member

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    No, it was right the first time. Maybe native redband, but there weren't native cutthroat here. Many of the streams have falls near the mouth,not allowing redbands to ascend from the Columbia. Until brookies were introduced, those kind of streams here didn't have fish. If I had to choose between a barren stream and brookies, I'll take the brookies. If the brookies are in a lake or stream that allows them to compete with native fish, by all means, remove them. Btw, I'm only referring to the streams in my immediate vicinity. I know cutthroat were native to much of our state.
  20. Brookie_Hunter aka Dave Hoover

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    That's probably not a good example to use here as that is what you're required to do. All lake trout caught in Yellowstone Lake must be killed. Same for rainbows and brookies in some Yellowstone NP river drainages.