License rant

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Itchy Dog, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. Itchy Dog Some call me Kirk Werner

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    I don't mind paying for my hunting/fishing license each year: at least a portion of the fees go toward conservation.

    What irks me is the multiple linear feet of waterproof paper that then has to be folded up and tucked into a license holder, somehow: license, catch records, turkey, deer and elk tags, etc. what a wad.

    There's got to be a simpler way...like a credit card that can be swiped, revealing what the hunter/angler has purchased. Anyone know if this is done elsewhere?
  2. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    All I need is a conservation license. It is on Waterproof paper and is about 8" long. I fold it about four times and it fits in my wallet. About the only time I take it out is at the beginning of the next years time when I buy a new one.

    In 7 years of fishing here in Montana I have only been asked once to show it.

    I know, I know. It's not Washington. But it used to be that way, before they all got greedy.
  3. triploidjunkie Active Member

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    And don't forget the ridiculous amount of parking permits they require these days(which I won't buy). You almost need a separate glove box in your vehicle just to transport all of those.
  4. Joe Goodfellow Active Member

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    That's funny
  5. Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

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    That's why I didn't go fishing today. I was busy mounting a filing cabinet in my Jeep . . .
  6. Jeff Dodd Active Member

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    This is a serious pet peeve of mine. Bought a recycled waders wallet to carry it all in. And now the Discovery Pass is required at more and more locations it seems.

    Last week I fished Roses Lk near Chelan. There is a launch on the lake that required a Discovery Pass. Are these passes not only for State Parks? I havE the D. pass but still wonder if the State has changed the rules a bit in order to sell more of these parking passes.

    I am not a conspiracy theory person, but I sound like one tonight :)
  7. IveofIone Active Member

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    The ones I hate are the ones that say they don't honor WDFW or Discover passes but want actual cash instead. There are two of those nearby and I will most likley never fish either one again.

    Ive
  8. Scott Salzer previously micro brew

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    Jeff:

    If you camp at the "state park" your receipt is your "daily discover pass". If ya don't, and just use the access and launch, ya need the discovery pass.

    I just throw all the stuff ---- on the dash board.

    Then there is the forest pass........... My dash is covered.

    City / county, can do what they want with access fees, as Ive points out.

    Should be simple, but it's not.

    MB
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  9. Bob Triggs STOP KILLING WILD STEELHEAD!!!!

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    Less opportunity, More fees and Taxes.
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  10. Jordan Simpson Active Member

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    Yeah, I remember buying my Washington saltwater license and it was ridiculous- looked like a receipt from Costco, which I don't shop at.
    Up here in BC, we just go online, fill out our info and click on what we want (annual license, freshwater salmon and a steelhead tag). Print it out on computer paper and I fold it up into a ziplock bag. Fits in my chest pack and I just leave it there for the season.
    I can't remember how old I was when I started fishing, but in at least 20-something years, I've never been asked for it or checked. Ever.
  11. Patrick Gould Active Member

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    Great marketing for Yakima rocket boxes
  12. cuponoodle breakfast gritty

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    Required for state parks and DNR land.
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  13. Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I can still remember when I first fished in Washington state. All you needed back in the olden days was a fishing license. You could then fish anyplace you wanted to. Boy, things have sure changed. Now you almost need a pass to fart. Steelhead and salmon punch cards were free.
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  14. GAT Active Member

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    It's the same deal in Oregon. You get a crummy receipt that is kind'a water resistant but not really. The salmon/steelhead tag is separate so you need to fold a weird-ass origami thing to get both the fishing license and tag to fit in your wallet. For the price we pay for the license and tag , I'd like something a little more substantial than a cash register receipt.

    And yup, they've recently started requiring another receipt for parking at specific fisheries.

    All so they can keep the damned fish hatcheries up and running.
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  15. hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    in montana one peice of paper is good virtually everywhere. unless your a guide, then you'll need 6 or more documents at a cost of over 800 clams before you guide your first trip every year.
  16. freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    I hear ya. It took for what seemed like forever for WA to finally adopt the electronic licensing system. Hell, they had them in MT, ID and Utah for many years before WA got on board -- a 6-8 inch length of paper. Then, stopping at the Cle Elum hardware store one season to renew my license, in route to Lenice, I watch the machine spit-out what looked to be 30" of paper...thought the clerk had screwed something up or the machine had malfunctioned. Nope, 16 folds later, he had it all stuffed into a pouch. He too was shaking his head and we were both probably thinking the same thing... leave it to the state of WA to take a simple idea and improve it. :confused:
  17. GAT Active Member

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    Here's a blast from the past. Before the forest fire drew attention to Yellowstone National Park, the price of a fishing license for the park was.....

    wait for it.....

    Nothing!

    The only requirement was that you signed a document that indicated you read the fishing regulations and they gave you the fishing license. That certainly isn't the case today.

    I remember the retailers in West Yellowstone tossing a fit about the fire and claiming their business was ruined. Ironically, the numbers of those who visited the park shot up after the fire, so if anything, the fire increased the retailers business instead of reducing it.

    It was after the fire and when the number of visitors increased that the feds started charging for the fishing license. Odd how that worked.
  18. Upton O Blind hog fisherman

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    Are you ready for this part? These are the "good ol' days", it will get worse.
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  19. wadin' boot Donny, you're out of your element...

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    The amount of crap including passes and licenses stored in my glove box meant it never shut well. I must have snapped the hinge slamming it shut sometime in the last year, so for the last three months it pops open going over a speed bump, driveway, rail line etc. So I locked it shut. Then when i tried to unlock it to get at something I needed, it wouldn't open. Took it to the dealer, they wanted 250 and labor to fix it, which would require an all new glovebox etc. I went home, took the mini-crowbar out, popped the whole door off and am now glovebox free. There's a little shelf in there and alls you can see is discovery and wdfw passses and the car book that came with vehicle. Plus there's more legroom.
  20. Patrick Gould Active Member

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    I still have trouble with the policy of not replacing lost or stolen hang tags.
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