License rant

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Itchy Dog, Apr 12, 2013.

  1. Itchy Dog

    Itchy Dog Some call me Kirk Werner

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2005
    Messages:
    3,851
    Media:
    161
    Likes Received:
    493
    Location:
    Doo-vall
    Home Page:
    I don't mind paying for my hunting/fishing license each year: at least a portion of the fees go toward conservation.

    What irks me is the multiple linear feet of waterproof paper that then has to be folded up and tucked into a license holder, somehow: license, catch records, turkey, deer and elk tags, etc. what a wad.

    There's got to be a simpler way...like a credit card that can be swiped, revealing what the hunter/angler has purchased. Anyone know if this is done elsewhere?
     
  2. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2002
    Messages:
    22,529
    Media:
    29
    Likes Received:
    2,005
    Location:
    In a comfortable chair
    All I need is a conservation license. It is on Waterproof paper and is about 8" long. I fold it about four times and it fits in my wallet. About the only time I take it out is at the beginning of the next years time when I buy a new one.

    In 7 years of fishing here in Montana I have only been asked once to show it.

    I know, I know. It's not Washington. But it used to be that way, before they all got greedy.
     
  3. triploidjunkie

    triploidjunkie Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    2,610
    Media:
    147
    Likes Received:
    1,656
    Location:
    Grand Coulee, WA
    And don't forget the ridiculous amount of parking permits they require these days(which I won't buy). You almost need a separate glove box in your vehicle just to transport all of those.
     
  4. Joe Goodfellow

    Joe Goodfellow Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2011
    Messages:
    659
    Media:
    4
    Likes Received:
    161
    Location:
    DES moines wa
    That's funny
     
  5. Jim Ficklin

    Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2008
    Messages:
    2,766
    Likes Received:
    947
    Location:
    Columbia Basin
    That's why I didn't go fishing today. I was busy mounting a filing cabinet in my Jeep . . .
     
  6. Jeff Dodd

    Jeff Dodd Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    1,700
    Media:
    1
    Likes Received:
    456
    Location:
    Langley, WA
    This is a serious pet peeve of mine. Bought a recycled waders wallet to carry it all in. And now the Discovery Pass is required at more and more locations it seems.

    Last week I fished Roses Lk near Chelan. There is a launch on the lake that required a Discovery Pass. Are these passes not only for State Parks? I havE the D. pass but still wonder if the State has changed the rules a bit in order to sell more of these parking passes.

    I am not a conspiracy theory person, but I sound like one tonight :)
     
  7. IveofIone

    IveofIone Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,245
    Likes Received:
    1,335
    Location:
    .
    The ones I hate are the ones that say they don't honor WDFW or Discover passes but want actual cash instead. There are two of those nearby and I will most likley never fish either one again.

    Ive
     
  8. Scott Salzer

    Scott Salzer previously micro brew

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 1969
    Messages:
    3,002
    Likes Received:
    241
    Location:
    .
    Jeff:

    If you camp at the "state park" your receipt is your "daily discover pass". If ya don't, and just use the access and launch, ya need the discovery pass.

    I just throw all the stuff ---- on the dash board.

    Then there is the forest pass........... My dash is covered.

    City / county, can do what they want with access fees, as Ive points out.

    Should be simple, but it's not.

    MB
     
    Jeff Dodd likes this.
  9. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Your Preferred Olympic Peninsula Fly Fishing Guide

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2003
    Messages:
    4,084
    Media:
    1
    Likes Received:
    796
    Location:
    Olympic Peninsula
    Home Page:
    Less opportunity, More fees and Taxes.
     
    Jonathan Tachell likes this.
  10. Jordan Simpson

    Jordan Simpson Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    865
    Media:
    3
    Likes Received:
    108
    Location:
    Tsawwassen, BC
    Yeah, I remember buying my Washington saltwater license and it was ridiculous- looked like a receipt from Costco, which I don't shop at.
    Up here in BC, we just go online, fill out our info and click on what we want (annual license, freshwater salmon and a steelhead tag). Print it out on computer paper and I fold it up into a ziplock bag. Fits in my chest pack and I just leave it there for the season.
    I can't remember how old I was when I started fishing, but in at least 20-something years, I've never been asked for it or checked. Ever.
     
  11. Patrick Gould

    Patrick Gould Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    2,356
    Media:
    1
    Likes Received:
    685
    Location:
    Ellensburg, WA
    Great marketing for Yakima rocket boxes
     
  12. cuponoodle breakfast

    cuponoodle breakfast Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2003
    Messages:
    1,702
    Likes Received:
    342
    Location:
    Arlington
    Required for state parks and DNR land.
     
    Jeff Dodd likes this.
  13. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2002
    Messages:
    22,529
    Media:
    29
    Likes Received:
    2,005
    Location:
    In a comfortable chair
    I can still remember when I first fished in Washington state. All you needed back in the olden days was a fishing license. You could then fish anyplace you wanted to. Boy, things have sure changed. Now you almost need a pass to fart. Steelhead and salmon punch cards were free.
     
    wa_desert_rat likes this.
  14. GAT

    GAT Dumbfounded

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,911
    Likes Received:
    3,236
    Location:
    Willamette Valley, OR
    It's the same deal in Oregon. You get a crummy receipt that is kind'a water resistant but not really. The salmon/steelhead tag is separate so you need to fold a weird-ass origami thing to get both the fishing license and tag to fit in your wallet. For the price we pay for the license and tag , I'd like something a little more substantial than a cash register receipt.

    And yup, they've recently started requiring another receipt for parking at specific fisheries.

    All so they can keep the damned fish hatcheries up and running.
     
    Jeff Dodd likes this.
  15. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2011
    Messages:
    566
    Likes Received:
    115
    Location:
    inland
    in montana one peice of paper is good virtually everywhere. unless your a guide, then you'll need 6 or more documents at a cost of over 800 clams before you guide your first trip every year.
     
  16. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    Messages:
    4,590
    Media:
    24
    Likes Received:
    911
    Location:
    Edgewood, WA
    I hear ya. It took for what seemed like forever for WA to finally adopt the electronic licensing system. Hell, they had them in MT, ID and Utah for many years before WA got on board -- a 6-8 inch length of paper. Then, stopping at the Cle Elum hardware store one season to renew my license, in route to Lenice, I watch the machine spit-out what looked to be 30" of paper...thought the clerk had screwed something up or the machine had malfunctioned. Nope, 16 folds later, he had it all stuffed into a pouch. He too was shaking his head and we were both probably thinking the same thing... leave it to the state of WA to take a simple idea and improve it. :confused:
     
  17. GAT

    GAT Dumbfounded

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,911
    Likes Received:
    3,236
    Location:
    Willamette Valley, OR
    Here's a blast from the past. Before the forest fire drew attention to Yellowstone National Park, the price of a fishing license for the park was.....

    wait for it.....

    Nothing!

    The only requirement was that you signed a document that indicated you read the fishing regulations and they gave you the fishing license. That certainly isn't the case today.

    I remember the retailers in West Yellowstone tossing a fit about the fire and claiming their business was ruined. Ironically, the numbers of those who visited the park shot up after the fire, so if anything, the fire increased the retailers business instead of reducing it.

    It was after the fire and when the number of visitors increased that the feds started charging for the fishing license. Odd how that worked.
     
  18. Upton O

    Upton O Blind hog fisherman

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    2,216
    Likes Received:
    246
    Location:
    out of state now
    Home Page:
    Are you ready for this part? These are the "good ol' days", it will get worse.
     
    Jim Wallace likes this.
  19. wadin' boot

    wadin' boot Donny, you're out of your element...

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,148
    Likes Received:
    1,763
    Location:
    Wallingford, WA
    Home Page:
    The amount of crap including passes and licenses stored in my glove box meant it never shut well. I must have snapped the hinge slamming it shut sometime in the last year, so for the last three months it pops open going over a speed bump, driveway, rail line etc. So I locked it shut. Then when i tried to unlock it to get at something I needed, it wouldn't open. Took it to the dealer, they wanted 250 and labor to fix it, which would require an all new glovebox etc. I went home, took the mini-crowbar out, popped the whole door off and am now glovebox free. There's a little shelf in there and alls you can see is discovery and wdfw passses and the car book that came with vehicle. Plus there's more legroom.
     
  20. Patrick Gould

    Patrick Gould Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    2,356
    Media:
    1
    Likes Received:
    685
    Location:
    Ellensburg, WA
    I still have trouble with the policy of not replacing lost or stolen hang tags.
     
    Luke77 and Josh like this.

Share This Page