One piece blanks

Discussion in 'Rod Building' started by Stonefish, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Stonefish Triploid and Humpy Hater

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    Does anyone make a one piece blank?
    I know Loomis does, but I'm not sure they sell blanks any longer. I'd want something longer then what they make anyway.
    I'd like to find something in the 9'6" range.
    Any ideas?
    Thanks
    SF
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  2. Rob Ast Active Member

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  3. sroffe Member

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    Why a one piece? What is the advantage? Action better?
  4. Scudley Do Right Member

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    yes, ferrules create flat spots
  5. mbowers Active Member

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    Ferrules also come apart at inopportune times.

    Break a tip on a one piece though and you're rebuilding an entire rod!
  6. Red Arch Active Member

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    Not to mention the fact you have to transport a 9'6" rod tube for it...
  7. Stonefish Triploid and Humpy Hater

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    It would only be for local saltwater use, so not difficult if you never intend to break it down. My current 9' 6" 6 wt fits nicely into the back of my rig fully assembled. I could easily hang a one piecer in my garage when not in use.
    SF
  8. constructeur Active Member

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    Sage, Lamiglas, Winston or St. Croix might be willing to hook you up with a blank (or full build) without cutting the blank as they normally would. I'd just give whomever's action you favor the most a bell, and go from there.
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  9. constructeur Active Member

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    Forgot about Burkheimer! They have 6 and 7 wts in 9'5" DAL rods.
  10. mbowers Active Member

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    Are you sure they make an one piece rod and then cut it into multiple pieces? I have never heard of that before. Please provide more info.

    I found this blog about how ECHO makes a multi piece rod in multiple pieces and an one piece rod in (obviously) a single piece. There is no cutting a one piece into multiple pieces..

    http://oregonflyfishingblog.com/2013/01/16/echo-prime-one-piece-fly-rods-review-tim-rajeff/
  11. constructeur Active Member

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    I don't have a clue, or give a shit how they're made, I was just throwing ideas around, and telling Brian not to be bashful about calling and asking for a one off cause "ya never know."
  12. nailbender Active Member

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    I would bet that sage is at least kicking the idea around, since other companies are making them. They all seem to be nine foot saltwater at this point. Lamiglas would be worth a call they have a lot of stuff laying around in the back.

    Doug
  13. mbowers Active Member

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    Maybe Sage is looking at it but it's a very niche market according to ECHO. It looks like the one piece rods are mostly 8'10" because shipping for anything over 9' gets very expensive. I still would love to try one.

    "Who’s going to fish the Prime? I asked a friend who reps in the fly fishing industry, how popular do you think these one piece rods will be? His answer was blunt. No one is going to buy these rods. They’re a dead end. The only people who will buy one-piece rods are a handful of freaky guides who live in a grass hut on the beach and fish 300 days a year."
  14. Stonefish Triploid and Humpy Hater

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    I only fish 125-150 days a year, but a grass hut on the beach and doubling my number of fishing days wouldn't be such a bad thing.....that would be pretty freaky actually ;)

    Thanks for all the replies.
    SF
  15. golfman44 Coho Queen

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    Some rod ferrules are designed to not close all the way, which alleviates most of the taper issues
  16. Scudley Do Right Member

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    Spigot ferrules? They still have an insert so they are thicker than the rest of the blank (flat spot). Rods with tip over butt ferrules are built in pieces on different mandrels. As far as I know the mandrels are the same. If there is a rod you like you could contact the manufacturer about making it one piece. They would need to design a cut sheet for the carbon fiber so it could be rolled on one mandrel. Chances are they won't do it for one blank but if you get enough people together they might.
  17. Alexander Fishon

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    Was (still am) looking into one piece blanks myself, I found this info on the stripers online forum.

    "Quote:
    Originally Posted by midwestexile


    Does anyone throw with or make one-piece fly rods? What blanks are out there?




    CTS makes a 1pc blank in almost every imaginable length and weight. But getting them into the US is a pain in the arse.

    Rogue makes a 1pc, a 7'9" 8/9/10 and a 10/11/12wt.

    Eddie and Kenny at Biscayne rod have their "Billy Baroo" 1pc. I've asked before and they said the blanks were available.

    There are still quite a few of the old Fisher graphites around too.

    Loomis has no plans on making their Pro1 blanks available for rod builders. And that's fine by me."
  18. Alexander Fishon

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  19. Mike Ediger Active Member

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    I have used Talon before, they will custom make a blank for you.
    To this day my all-time favorite rod is one of their blanks.
    Great people to work with, and from the state of WA, so you are supporting someone local. Let me know if you need more info.
    Just an idea.....
  20. Stonefish Triploid and Humpy Hater

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    Thanks for the additional info. Much appreciated.
    SF