Jerry - thanks for the shout out. Jonny - you definitely did the right thing. And as you wisely said you learned from it. One of my take-a-ways from your footage, and something that everyone can learn from, is that in a rescue situation the dialogue between the rescuer and the rescuee (We never refer to them as a victim, because your best chances of survival is as a self-rescue. Once others are involved the clock has often been ticking for a while, and as the clock ticks survival rates go down) is not a negotiation. Provided that the rescuer has the tools (skill, hand-on training, equipment, ability to make prudent judgement calls..) the rescuer takes charge. This is not to say that assessing he rescuee's condition shouldn't happen, but the rescuee shouldn't be allowed to determine the process or execution. In a Military situation you are trained to physically subdue the rescuee, because in addition to threats that the environment poses, you might have bad guys who want to do you harm as well. In your case that person in the water was going hypodermic. And we should all be aware of what happens to cognitive ability when hypothermia sets in. Once he really needed to get out of he water he did not have the motor skills to make the task easier for you. Fortunately, this was a benign situation on a protected lake. If the conditions were more challenging you could have jeopardized your own life. Regarding a lose fitting PFD... a tight fitting PDF will not only allow you to ride higher in the water it provides a great way of managing a semiconscious or incapacitated person. I used to be in a position where all of the river rescue and death reports came across my desk. A few people have perished because their PFD was fitted loosely and the rescuer was left with the PFD in their hands while the rescuee went to a very dark & cold place. In my personal experience I have had to deal with managing people who had loose fitting PFDs, and if I am ever in that situation I don't want my rescuer to spend an extra second assessing how to best move me - I want that PFD tightly secured to my body to they can just heave me and get me out of harm's way.