Please educate me...private property/tidelands etc

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by Alexander, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. Alexander

    Alexander Fishon

    If you know of places where I can read up on WA law regarding beach fishing/access etc or just want to comment here.

    With the exception of military property.

    If I access a beach from a public access point but end up walking the beach with my feet in the water can I fish all along the beach so long as I'm in the water? I don't get some of the private property sign especially the ones that suddenly showed up in an area I fish. I still notice people walking the dogs there etc but I don't want to get into it with anyone and want to respect the rules.

    So, whT's the word?

    I know a boat would solve many of those problems but I'm on foot and don't mind it at all.
     
  2. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

  3. Adrian

    Adrian Active Member

    Ask the property owner to present the deed showing ownership of the tidelands and accompanying GPS coordinates. Once they do, move 100' down shore...until then.
     
  4. Saltman

    Saltman "Just Fish!"

    If you are touching the beach (even if it is covered with water) you could technically be trespassing. Many landowners in Washington have deeded tidelands as part of their property. When in doubt, move on. There are miles of open beaches in this State, and it is not worth the argument to trespass.
     
  5. JayB

    JayB Active Member

  6. tyeoneon

    tyeoneon Member

    My grandparents had beach property and owned beach access, I believe, that was 100 feet down from the high tide mark, whatever they decided that would be. So, yes, there is that challenge out there. BTW, their propertywas also a clam bed as well!
     
  7. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

    A 14' Hi Laker can be had for a song and a dance and would solve most of these access issues.
     
  8. Steve Saville

    Steve Saville Active Member

    Not a very good idea. :( Every time this subject comes up and it comes up about twice a year, I make the same case. I am a beach property owner. My tidelands extend to the "mean low tide line." I pay a boatload of property tax for the right every year. While I don't enforce the privacy of my tidelands, all it would take would be one guy who gave me a hard time and the sheriff would be escorting said guy away from the beach. My neighbors have done this before, many times. That being said, it never hurts to ask prior nor does it hurt to be very courteous when challenged. The laws governing Washington tidelands are very convoluted, depending on the county and when the rights were purchased. In my case those rights were purchased in 1934 by my wife's grandparents. It differs with others. That why I say ask first. You are welcome to fish on all 195 feet of my beach anytime as long as you don't climb the bulkhead, leave trash on the beach, or relieve yourself on the property. Most of my neighbors feel the same way but there are a few who will make the call first and then ask questions later.
     
  9. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

    Beaches and shorelines give me migraines. Rivers are so simple. The SMA specifically excludes some tidal areas above the extreme low tide line, meaning they are not subject to the public trust implementation of the SMA (as I read it anyway).
     
  10. Adrian

    Adrian Active Member

    Nick Clayton who responded and I often fish the same beach. At the same beach, I've given fresh salmon and smoked salmon to property owners. I fill my stripping basket with garbage and am a good steward of the beach. However, if someone is going to shoo me off their "property" and be rude...I'll be rude right back. If someone parks out front of my house, or stops and has a conversation with a neighbor with their feet touching my grass, I don't run out there cussing them out. I want to be respected the same way the property owner wants to be respected.
     
  11. Adrian

    Adrian Active Member

    I'm not trying to be an internet tough guy, I am just saying that all parties should be courteous. So easy.
     
  12. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Your Preferred Olympic Peninsula Fly Fishing Guide

    Here is some interesting reading on this subject. "Waterfront Titles In Washington" (pfd.)
     

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  13. Alexander

    Alexander Fishon

    No link Bob. :). Or do you mean here as in on your blog?
     
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  14. Bob Triggs

    Bob Triggs Your Preferred Olympic Peninsula Fly Fishing Guide


    See above. The link finally loaded this try.
     
  15. theunderstudy

    theunderstudy New Member

    I think Adrian has it right. Mutual respect works best. I think if someone is giving you that hard of a time (my opinion) its really not worth an argument. I own waterfront+tide lands but I'm also a fisherman so I understand what they go through.
     
  16. Beach caster

    Beach caster New Member

    Wow I feel for you guys. Up here you can't own the beach (thank god). That being said I'm always friendly to land owners. I have even pulled up to the beach on private islands and walked around. They can't stop me. Fishing by foot on beaches up here is the norm; boat beach fishing is rare.
     
  17. Alexander

    Alexander Fishon

    Where are you from?
     
  18. Beach caster

    Beach caster New Member

    Sorry new on your forum. I'm from Vancouver island. I've been prowling the beaches and estuaries up here for since I was a kid. I have never had an adjacent land owner try claim the beach. Rivers up here, that's a different storey.
     
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  19. Adrian

    Adrian Active Member

    All beaches in Oregon are public as well.
     
  20. Alexander

    Alexander Fishon

    it would be nice if all waterfront beach, river or lake remain public for the enjoyment of the public and not so affluent.
     
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