South Fork Snoqualmie

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by crc333, Aug 25, 2014.

  1. crc333

    crc333 New Member

    I recently came back from a family trip to Sunriver. I spent a few mornings and nights on the Fall River, super fishing!
    Since then I have been trying to get out a bit more, when work and time allows. I have been having some fun on the SF & Cedar. Plenty of eager bows by the way.

    Today I found myself on the SF near Twin Falls, actually just west the falls. I like many have been hitting this spot for years. Never once have I had a situation like todays.

    As started fishing I noticed a couple soaking in the river. I fished above them not far from the bridge. for about 10 to 15 minutes. As I made my way down stream, I came across the couple and the guy sitting his chair says to me, do you know your trespassing! Me (just after saying hello) with a perplexed I didn't. He continues to explain...Well you are, and the owners are kinda touchy! So I say there isn't a single sign say to "keep out" or "No Trespassing". The guy in the chair then tells me I'm apart of that family and you'll know when a bullet passes ya! oddly enough they did explain a basic property boundary to me and I said thanks for the heads up. I moved down stream for about 15 mins. Needless to say the idol threat on my life was enough to kill the fishing mood.

    So I was on the hunt to try and find out about property lines in King County. I came across this site. If you have ever wondered or are now just wondering about this very subject and didn't know where to look now you do.
    It would seem according to this site I might have actually been crossing into someones property, while walking in the river. After looking at this site the parcel that crosses the river is 9016. According to the detailed report the "Waterfront Access Rights" is listed as "No". I have attached a few files.

    Anyway pics attached, Safe fishing everyone!


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  2. Derek Young

    Derek Young 2011 Orvis Endorsed Fly Fishing Guide Of The Year

    If you accessed the river from public property or a right of way, you are good below the high water mark. If you trespassed to get to the water through their property, then he's right.

    How were the water temps? It's getting to that time of year when the water is low, warm, and not as much oxygen. Nice looking fish.
  3. ChaseBallard

    ChaseBallard bushwhacker

    What Derek said is the state of WA RCW rule of thumb, but there is a catch.

    Was the SF Snoqualmie historically deemed commercially navigable? If not, less than recent land deeds likely do extend to the center of the river. Are they legally enforceable? Questionable. Is threatening a bullet acceptable? No. But still a catch.

    For example my family owns river property above a rapid filled canyon that historically marked the upriver point of commercial activity. Our deed says we own the river bottom out to the center. Do we enforce it on the million rafters that float and happen to graze bottom? Hell no, but that's what it says on our piece of paper.
  4. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

    If you were threatened you should of called 911 and put the property owner in a world of hurt.
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  5. JasonG

    JasonG Active Member

    Call the police. F that guy
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  6. crc333

    crc333 New Member

    I had thought about calling the police. Then thought about the potential impact on others fishing the same stretch of river. Would the property owner turn into a !@#$ and do nothing but harass everyone that fishes there?!

    There are plenty of other places to fish on the SF.
  7. JasonG

    JasonG Active Member

    It's your call. Everyone has a right to be on the water.
  8. teedub

    teedub Active Member

    I am pretty sure the SF was used to float logs down stream after 1872. That is and was a commercial definition. The commercial uses were very broadly interpreted over the years. Not to start a holy war, but there were also cases where mining made a river commercial. It is not just boats and barges.
  9. Chris Scoones

    Chris Scoones Administrator Staff Member

    Thanks for the 411. That's just upstream from my house. I might have a word with him.