Stripers in the Columbia River???

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  1. Vladimir Steblina

    Vladimir Steblina Retired Forester...now fishing instead of working

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    from the Spokesman-Review....couple of questions....I assume this is not good news for salmon and steelhead....and commercial fishermen in the Columbia??

    "A 52-pound striped bass was caught in the lower Columbia below Bonneville Dam on June 17. It was taken by a commercial fisherman in the Gorge."
     
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    It's happened before...likely just following the shad run upriver.
     
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    I saw that. Man, that was an ugly fish.
     
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    Read this thread because I thought it said 'strippers'.
     
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    wow that's crazy!
     
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    These occurrences are pretty rare (for the time being). These probably represent failed colonization attempts, but may be more likely in the future as the Columbia warms. There is a self-sustaining population in the Umpqua, and this is the most likely source of this individual, although it is possible (but probably less likely) that it came from the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta.
     
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    That would be in the Wilamette in Portland
     
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    I bet it was an Atlantic Salmon
     
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    The El Nino/La Nina, warm/cold current effects shift and change climates in the ocean even more than they do to us on land. El Nino years are known to bring warmer water species into the PNW with odd fish being caught here and there. Northern Oregon IS the top of the stripers range, for now. As noted, that fish may have been following a run or was attempting colonization. In either case it probably wasn't alone. I'm one of those that believes in global warming. It may be that stripers will eventually colonize the Columbia. I love stripers on the table and as a game fish, but NOT as much as salmon. And environmentally the salmon need the habitat more than the stripers do. Time will tell.
     
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    The only logical explanation
     
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    52lb is a massive striped bass.
     
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    Well, be careful, some eco-shrieker will declare it to be endangered and they'll shut down ever fishery in the area. Or, let the USFWS manage it, it won't be here long.
     
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    Unlikely...they are not native to the Pacific coast. I know you were kidding.
     
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    They're EVIL I tell ya!!!
     

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    Evil... But yummy. Eat 'em where you find 'em.

    Of the few Columbia rivers stripers I read about (frantic Google searching) all were large females with a womb full of eggs :eek: And a belly full of salmon smolts :mad:

    Transplanted from the east and south east coasts some time in the thirties I think. They are well embraced in Ca's SF bay and surrounding areas where the first plantings were done. Probably because that area has done so much to destroy it's salmonid populations starting about that time. I fished them when I lived there. I don't know of any studies about what happens to salmonid populations when striped bass take up residency in the same river. But the findings noted above say it all. The WDFW should have a bonus bag on stripers of "any amount" "no minimum size".
     
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    Actually striped bass were introduced in 1879 to the San Francisco-San Joaquin Delta (specifically at Martinez). Studies of their impacts on native salmonids in the Delta are ongoing, and while striped bass do consume smolts, shad, and other species, the declines of salmon in the Delta probably has more to do with water withdrawals and diversions than striped bass predation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of striped bass taking hold in the Columbia, but I think it's important to understand their ecological role and not jump to conclusions and respond with knee-jerk reactions.
     
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    Which I didn't. OK, maybe a tad. But a link to the any info on studies would be great. Incidentally... It may have been some time in the thirties that the last of the striped bass plants were happening. And by then the stream trout, salmon and steelhead in that region were already on hard decline. It's hard to imagine that an aggressive, prolific, climate compatible and predatory fish like the striped bass didn't contribute to that decline. Not stating facts, but logic.
     

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