Truck Biology in Bellevue

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  1. Chromer

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    The Muckleshoots are trucking excess Issaquah Creek coho to Kelsey Creek today. They may be doing the same for Coal Creek. The unload area is behind the southe.rn most barn
     
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    The City of Bellevue recently completed a restoration project on Kelsey Creek upstream of the park in the golf course. The coho should have some nice spawning and rearing habitat available to them.
     
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    The Kelsey Creek project at Glendale CC took approx. 4 months to return the stream to a more natural flow, free of barriers (beaver dams). Currently low lying shrubs are being added stream side to keep summer water temps cool.
    The result looks great and fish have been sighted.
     
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    Yeah I lead the crew that did the fish removal for the project prior to instream water work. There are quite a few fish in that creek. The contractor did a good job eliminating the weir barriers by re-grading the approach and adding LWD. Glad to hear that shrubs are being added. That will keep the temperatures down and the knotweed at bay. It is great that fish have been sighted already.
     
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    Sorry for the multiple posts (now removed by Taxon). I kept getting a server error of it timing out so I would re-try. I guess it was able to successfully upload my post. Oops.
     
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    I am all for habitat reform but does it do much good if there will be a massive amount of chemicals from the Golf course flushed into the creek. Just a thought!
     
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    There is a delete on each post. Maybe you could delete two of them. If not ask a mod to
     
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    Kelsey creek is a highly urbanized watershed. It is receiving pollutants from various sources, such as road run off from the many impervious surfaces surrounding it. It is an issue that impacts all urbanized watersheds and one that is not easily solved. Coho tend to be more sensitive to road run off pollution than other species. Also the creek is flashy when it rains, once again due to a high rate of impervious surface within the watershed. That does not help any deposited eggs. From experience though, there are a lot of fish in that creek within the restoration area. I suspect other areas also have abundant amounts of fish. Cutthroat seem to do well.
     
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    I wonder how good it is for the native fish populations of those small streams?I understand the nutrient load those hatchery fish may provide. I just wonder what the less desirable effects are of dumping out of system fish into them?
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    83 Coho counted this morning in Kelsey Creek within Glendale CC.
    BTW... Golf courses today are held to high standards that protect the natural habitat. Glendale is an Audubon Certified golf facility.
     
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    That little stream holds coho? Wow. Thats awesome. They come in from lake WA?

    I always hated that course wish I paid more attention to the water
     
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    The golf courses are actually good for the environment. They absorb rainfall that recharges streams and aquifers - much more than the water used to irrigate them. It is a lot better to have 150 acres of grassy swales where the water goes down than 150 acres of homes with roofs and driveways that discharge rainfall to storm systems where it never gets backs to aquifers or smaller streams.

    They also use a lot less fertilizer and pesticide per square foot than the average lawn - a lot less. The fertilizers and pesticides are expensive. Golf course maintenance people are highly trained in their usage, much more so than the average homeowner.
     
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    i know this is from over a year ago but i just moved back to PNW. I grew up fishing
    Kelsey Creek when Glendale was in its first year. The trout fishing along the golf
    course always brought home dinner . The entire area along the course was grand fishing
    for my after school buddies and me. The Salmon run was enormous and filled the creek
    in the small deeper pools. I am thrilled to read it is back up to what it was long ago.
    We are talking about my fishing that tiny creek around 55 years ago.


     
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    That's cool yehuda.
    I often think of the little south Sound creek my buddies and I did the same with back in the '50's/'60's.
    I'm afraid it hasn't fared nearly as well as Kelsey Cr.

    This does provide hope, and must give you a good feeling to know that about your childhood creek though!
     
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    I understand grass is better than roofs and black top, but I'm not buying the " a lot less fertilizers and pesticides than the average lawn". Personally I never use any and the courses I play don't have butter cups and dandy lions in the fairways.
     
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    I helped build a fish ladder higher up on the system many years ago. I also caught my first trout on Kelsey Creek. And Glendale was just in the way on the walk home from school.
     
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    Thanks--what is important is the creek is alive in such an urban setting. I cannot
    drive into Bellevue anymore. All i recognize are the street signs and my old high
    school --Sammamish.

    it seems that the volunteers and fisheries folks get big time kudos . I am really 67
    and grew up on that '''secret''' fishing creek. We knew every tiny hole and riffle
    and Glendale had the best fishing ...above 8th Avenue it went downhill. I drove by
    the Golf Course and the creek now is shrouded in trees and low lying brush. I
    am pretty certain any youngster could sneak onto the golf course late afternoon
    during season on a week day and bring home dinner. Thank you for replying. I am
    planning my Montana trip for this summer. Last time I fished Swan River and Big Hole
    it was magical but that was 47 years ago.