Wear Sunscreen!!

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by dryflylarry, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. martyg

    martyg Active Member

    I second the UV Buffs. For some reason sunscreens - the taste, smell, residue - just bothers me. The Buffs have worked great for me.
     
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  2. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

    My bride pointed out an interesting article the other day that most people that use sunscreen don't use nearly enough. So the protection they 'think' they're receiving is marginal at best. The article says that a family of four should go though an entire bottle of sunscreen over a weekend. Sheesh, and I thought applying a little dab the size of a nickel was adequate.

    K
     
  3. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

    I have always figured that if you are going to get cancer of any kind that you will get it no matter what precautions you take. It is in you, what it takes to trigger it is something they don't know.

    I go out in the sun with just some body lotion and bug spray. I'm still here.
     
  4. Danielocean

    Danielocean Steelhead Virgin


    Well I guess we all would like to be a little optimistic about illnesses and stuff.
     
  5. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

    Why worry about the little things. When it's your time to go there is nothing you can do to prevent it.
     
  6. Danielocean

    Danielocean Steelhead Virgin

    Hey I am still young. It better not be my time soon.
     
  7. Trustfunder

    Trustfunder Active Member

    Agree with Old Man, a recent eulogy essentially said... Live like no tomorrow, and when shit hits the fan let the doctor worry about it, that's why you pay them.
     
  8. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

    My preferred demise is to be shot by a jealous husband at age 95.
     
  9. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide

    They recommend at least two tablespoon (or maybe it was two oz), or a "golf ball sized glob" as the minimum amount to apply. When I'm surfing, I don't need that much just for my exposed face. My surf sessions are less than 2 hours, and I re-apply afterwards.
    Since I don't usually wear gloves when paddling my Yak or U-12, or fishing in a boat, I apply waterproof sunscreen liberally to the backs of my hands and wrists (wearing long sleeves), and let it soak in and dry. then I carefully wash my palms and fingers so that the smell from the residue doesn't get on my flies or fishing gear and put off any fish. Of course, my face and neck get slathered up, too when I'm paddling, but I'm going to invest in a couple of UV buffs since I hate applying gobs of chemicals several times a week.
     
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  10. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide

    Hey Old Man, I'll probably be required to purchase insurance starting in 2014 under Obamacare, or else pay a penalty. It might be worth it to pay the penalty and not buy the insurance, and hold off until I get on Medicare. I'll have to do the math on that one, once I have the figures.
     
  11. Golden Trout

    Golden Trout Active Member

    I have read that skin cancer rates are at their highest in places like England and lowest in desert areas like Arizona. The data below indicating "Island" county as one of the highest in the State and Washington one of the highest in the nation might lead one to this same conclusion since most people live on the cloudy side.

    just the facts: Skin Cancer in Washington

    ■Sunburns. A 2004 survey found that 43.6% of white adults in Washington had at
    least one sunburn in the past year.5 Sunburns are a significant risk factor for the
    development of skin cancer.6-8

    ■New■Cases■of■Melanoma. The rate of new melanoma diagnoses—responsible for
    75% of all skin cancer deaths—was 35% higher in Washington than the national
    average from 2001-2005 and was the 5th highest in the U.S.9,10 An estimated 1,900
    state residents were diagnosed with melanoma in 2008.2

    ■Island County has one of the top 10 rates of new melanoma diagnoses among
    counties nationwide, 130% above the national average.11

    ■Deaths■from■Melanoma.■Approximately 175 people in Washington die of
    melanoma every year.12 Washington had the 16th highest melanoma death rate
    nationally from 2001-2005—7.4% higher than the U.S. average.13
    Skin■cancer■is■the■most■common■cancer■diagnosed■in■the■
    United■States.1-4 This fact sheet presents statistics about skin
    cancer for Washington and the United States as a whole.
    Melanoma■Death■Rates,■■
    2001–200512
    All■Races,■Both■Sexes,■All■Ages
    WA
    Melanoma Deaths per Year
    per 100,000 People
    3.1–3.4
    2.6–3.0
    2.1–2.5
    1.6–2.0
     
  12. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide

    Scary stats there, GT! We Washingtonians take a lot of vacations to tropical climes in the winter time, and often come back with sunburns.
    I think we minimize the hazard in our own minds here in coastal WA and Island County due to the generally cooler weather, too.
     
  13. Rob Ast

    Rob Ast Active Member

    Larry, hope all goes well with the treatments. Remember, when you kiss a fish it doesn't care what your lip looks like :)

    I am in the full cover-up camp. I wear long sleeve SPF shirts, uv Buff, hat, and buff gloves to cover my hands/wrists. Even with this I will put sunscreen on my face/ears/neck in case the Buff slips. The Uv clothing can't wash off like sunscreen, and I'm exposed to fewer of the chemicals in the smelly goop.
     
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  14. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

    According to my dermatologist, melanoma is most commonly found on the back if you are a male and the back of the legs for females.
    Both of mine were on my back. My back looks like I've been in a knife fight......
     
  15. dryflylarry

    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

    Yeah, Thanks Rob. Hopefully the screams you hear on the beach are me, with a coho hooked, and not the pain from my bleeding, burning, itching, peeling, splitting lip!!! :)
     
  16. Tacoma Red

    Tacoma Red Active Member


    You are absolutely correct Old Man! Cancer is like a wound that doesn't heal, as if your immune system tolerates it in its infancy.
     
  17. IveofIone

    IveofIone Active Member

    Larry, I hope you get through this allright. I have had the same thing and the scars to prove it, the treatment was painful. And thanks for bringing it to the attention of others, many of whom are rather macho and chauvinistic about their own vulnerabilities. No one is tougher than the sun.

    I take a lot of precautions these days and so far so good. I wear big hats and bought one of those long brimmed solar block ball type caps also. I buy the biggest Aviator model FitOvers sunglasses which give me great wraparound coverage and keep any sun from coming in the sides. They look like welding goggles but man do they do the job. And the sunscreen I use is Banana Boat Kids which is tear free, sting free and most importantly fragrance free. It is SPF 50 and looks much like clown white when first applied. For a few minutes you'll look like you are going to a rock concert or a Raiders game but it soon blends in. I suppose few adults use it because it says KIDS on the tube but the fragrance free part alone is worth the price. And always carry a buff. Once you do get burned the best thing that I have ever used for relief and healing is Vitamin A&D ointment. I haven't gone out without this stuff for 50 years now. It is just as effective on the slopes of Mt Mckinley as it is on the Deschutes. Smear some on after a burn and see how fast you heal.

    I sure hope that lip can be saved bud. Some of the cigar smokers on here are going to get a similar cancer but might lose some lips in the process. They'll have a big smile afterward but they won't be happy.:D

    Ive
     
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  18. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

    I'm not really that asshole I make myself out to be. I don't stay out in the sun long enough to get a sun burn. I'll tan up because I don't stay in the sun long. I have yet to be sunburned yet this year. I've had my share of sunburns. Once when I was a kid I was so sunburned that my shirt was stuck to my skin. I was to young to remember it. Another time I was about 24 and my first wife used to make he own suntan lotion. She smeared it all over me and we were swimming in the salt at Picnic point. All that wasn't sunburned was when I had on my swimming suit. I was in pure misery for a week.

    I never felt the need to use sunscreen. Maybe I should as I could prolong my life another 50 years.

    Now when I go fish I will have something else to wear instead of just hand lotion and bug spray.
     
  19. Good to hear you caught it early Larry. I always figured I'd be the one to get it, spending 25 years outdoors as an ironworker, 15 in California; have had a few "pre-cancerous" removed, but nothing serious. The wife has never been a sunworshipper, but she's the one who gets the bad kind; MOHS surgery on her forehead and they're watching one on her lip. BTW, if anyone needs surgery, this is the ONLY method I'd consider:
    http://www.melanomafoundation.org/diagnosis/surgery.htm
    Don't make the mistake of thinking that as a PNW resident you are not a candidate(as mentioned earlier by Alex), my neighbor in Alaska died from it.
     
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  20. Dipnet

    Dipnet aka Tim Hartman

    Please don't disillusion all your fans, OMJ!! ;)
     
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