Well are they or not...

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by FinLuver, Mar 5, 2014.

  1. FinLuver Active Member

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    "We need to maintain healthy and abundant wild populations not only for their own sake, but to be a supply of fish for hatchery production and to keep hatchery programs cost effective," Bakke said.

    Guess "they' are not as bad for our streams as has been previously purported...after all, this quote comes from the "expert".
  2. Jeff Sawyer Active Member

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    Its been my experience that experts and morons are often indistinguishable.
  3. Whitey Active Member

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    Hatcheries are a jobs program.

    The wdfw shills will be here shortly to confuse and mislead the masses with a long winded response full of half truths and poor science.
  4. Whitey Active Member

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    So which hatchery do you work at?
  5. Danielocean Steelhead Virgin

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    From what I have heard the WDFW has a reputation for not paying as well as they should.
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  6. FinLuver Active Member

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    "i will concede bill is an expert, at least more knowledgeable than me. yet even experts can be quoted out of context to meet the needs of whatever agenda one has. "

    SOPFLY...That quote was/is from an article touted by NFS, and which a link was provided from a mass emailing sent by them.

    As they put it..."Fox News. - Fair and Balanced"
  7. Dan Page Active Member

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  8. FinLuver Active Member

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    DP...

    I have that as well, but the quote was from a link (FOX News Report) provided by NFS via mass emailing, within the last week, patting themselves on the back for the "good work" they are doing.
  9. Dan Page Active Member

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    OK. I hear what you're saying.
    The influence of pro hatchery is very strong. Even in reading some biologists I get the feeling they can't let go of trying to improve over nature.
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  10. Chris Bellows The Thought Train

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    It is pretty easy to tell the difference when Finluver is the moron. Just a know-nothing troll.
  11. FinLuver Active Member

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    Jeff Sawyer said:
    Its been my experience that experts and morons are often indistinguishable.
    Chris Bellows... It is pretty easy to tell the difference when Finluver is the moron. Just a know-nothing troll.

    Now that was constructive ... don't shoot the messenger (read the article) ;)
  12. Chris DeLeone Active Member

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  13. Dan Page Active Member

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    Thanks for posting Chris.
    Am not seeing anything out of line here.
  14. Salmo_g Active Member

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    Even in context, it's taken out of context. That's the nature of brief news articles and sound bites. They can never include enough detail to fully explain an issue. If FinLuver actually wanted to understand Bakke's and the NFS' opinion on the subject, he'd have to read quite a bit more. But actually understanding a subject and knowing what you're talking about is so unexciting, compared to clipped sound bites.

    Sg
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  15. Krusty Active Member

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    For the majority of the fishing license purchasing bait/gear chucking public, and their one or two days on the water during the season opener, hauling home a limit of hatchery fish are the only thing that keeps them happy....and they 'pay the freight' for F&G departments. It's an entertainment business, plain and simple.
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  16. Charles Sullivan dreaming through the come down

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    Thanks to those of you who posted the link. Nothing htere to get too worked up about.

    Go Sox,
    cds