Anchovy

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  1. Jack Devlin

    Jack Devlin Active Member

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    Question for all the Saltwater experts out there: Are there anchovy in Puget Sound? Viable forage food?
    Joe Cordeiro (flatwing guru, Massachusetts) sent me a anchovy pattern to try out. Evidently, he ties them for California fisherman - probably for albacore.
    Jack
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  2. Roger Stephens

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    In the past couple of decades there have been some years that have had quite a few anchovies present in south Puget Sound area. IMHO they are a food source for salmon particularly coho. I have only seen anchovies in the stomach of a couple of adult coho. Adult chum salmon will readily eat anchovies dead drifted under a bobber.

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    Big E Moderator Staff Member

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    You'll be more apt to find anchovy closer to the ocean. You could maybe find some in the sound but not consistently.
     
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    There are and fly patterns theat represent them work well



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    Kelvin. Great (sick) minds think alike.:)
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    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    we both tie flatwings
    enough said
     
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    I tie a flat wing with pink like that.
    Marabo rather than hackle.
    I think it mimics a smelt more than an anchovy

    but what do I know

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  10. Eyejuggler

    Eyejuggler Beech Nut

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    So, being a newer tier, I must ask is when you tie a flat wing, it looks like were increasing the overall length of the fly with the full feathers. The hook is tiny in comparison and situated towards the front. Do you ever tie them with stinger hooks or is the forward based hook sufficient, even in the event of short strikers. This may be redundant or superfluous, but it is a question I ask myself when I look at "long" or streamer ties.
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    Thanks in advance!
     
  11. Jack Devlin

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    Eyejuggler,
    Keep in mind, flat wings, as created by Kenney Abrames, were designed with striped bass in mind. BIG fish,BIG mouths inhaling the fly. For Puget Sound we downsize the fly especially for cutthroat. I am thinking a stinger hook would destroy the action originally intended just as would weighting the fly. BUT, there is always room for experimentation. Trouble is, when we change things too much we often end up with a whole new animal. That's what makes it all fun. Last year I had success with flatwings in the 6-7 inch range for silvers and 3 inch +- for cutthroat which is not to say a cutthroat wouldn't take the 6-7 inch fly ( and they do). Looking forward to this year and experimenting.
    Jack
     
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    Eyejuggler Beech Nut

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    Nice info! Thanks for the reply Jack! Sorry I was unable to make it to your tie session at Gig Harbor...but if it happens again, I am so there :)
    You create some beautiful/practical works of art!
     
  13. Patrick Allen

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    Grew up on Discovery Bay just outside of Port Townsend and every June back in the 80's they used to spawn in the shallows of the bay. We would go fish in 20-30 ft of water and absolutely slay the Kings. They would chase the Anchovies and spray them 4-5 feet out of the water. Pretty incredible how things used to be.

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    I saw anchovies spawn in a key penn creek a few years back
    I counted 14 eagles
    The caspian terns were eating heavy as well
    Eventually the eagles switched to eating the terns who were too busy to notice
    It was one active area for about about eight tides
     
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    To be more accurate it was in the tidal reach of a creek