Another Fly Shop Closing Their Doors

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  1. GAT

    GAT Dumbfounded

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    I came across this on another site. It was a shock for me. I've known Rich since before he opened the shop in Salem with his wife, Kathy. It was an excellent fly shop, one of the best in Oregon. I can't believe a city as large as Salem can't support a single fly shop. At one time, there were three. Now, none.

    Sad times. I certainly wish the best for Rich and Kathy.


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    After 16 great years of owning and operating Creekside Flyfishing in Salem Oregon we have decided to close our fly shop. We would like to thank our customers who have supported us for all those years. The guide and Outfitting business has been going strong for the last 21 years and that is what I'm going to stay focused on. I will still offer spey casting lessons, single hand casting lessons and we will still book our private lakes. So if you want to book a guided fly fishing trip just call 503-588-1768. Our phone number & e-mail will stay the same. We have some great deals going on until November 30th then I will be locking the door for the final time.

    Thanks for your support!!

    Rich Youngers
    Creekside Flyfishing
    350 Liberty ST SE
    Salem, Oregon 97301
    503-588-1768
     
  2. 1morecast

    1morecast Active Member

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    I have stopped in at the shop whenever I am in the area. Before I moved to the coast I would order all my steelhead and salmon tying materials from Rich. The quality of his products and the level of customer service was top shelf all the way.
    Best of luck to the Youngers.
     
  3. Olive bugger

    Olive bugger Active Member

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    Sad news. I was just wondering the other day what has happened to the Kaufmann boys. I have not heard about Randall for several years and Lance was up on the Skykomish with a rod expo a few years back,
    They closed their doors shortly thereafter. We lost the ALL ABOUT THE FLY storefront in Monroe a couple of years ago, and Swede moved to Spokane and left Woodinville bare and dry.
     
  4. Tim Cottage

    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Shoot! One of the few good brick and mortar shops for fly tying needs.

    TC
     
  5. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Bummer,
    I met Rich and his wife one day will fishing a lake up here. I believe they were on vacation.
    Very nice folks. I wish them well on their future endeavors.
    SF
     
  6. David Dalan

    David Dalan 69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E

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  7. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    Bummer. I am hopeful that some course directions are in this countries future and economy that will prompt a resurgence of days gone by... well, one can hope anyway.
     
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    Sad indeed...kinda' like losing a family member. :(
     
  9. Chris Johnson

    Chris Johnson Member: Native Fish Society

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    Local fly shops give a sense of place, they are a focal point for the angling community. The internet is great for speed and convenience, and disseminating information, but it could be anywhere, there is no there, there. Shopping on the internet or at Cabela's or any chain store you could be anywhere in the world and not know the difference, the same standardized, homogenized bullshit.
     
  10. weiliwen

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    I remember going into a local (to Portland) fly shop one day; I visit the shop 4-5 times a year, max, so I'm sure the owner doesn't know me. Nevertheless, when I walked in, he greeted me and said, "Hey, I'm just about to make a sandwich for lunch. Would you like me to make you one, too?"

    How can you NOT want to bring your business to a place like that? It is a shame that these places seem to be on the road to extinction.
     
  11. GAT

    GAT Dumbfounded

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    The Salem paper finally picked up on the story. This explains quite well what is happening to local fly shops:

    http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20131107/COLUMN0401/311070016/Miller-Salem-s-last-fly-fishing-store-close-its-doors?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Home|p&nclick_check=1


    When I first started fly fishing, the only shop in Salem was originally owned by McNeese. He sold out and it went through two owners and the last was Rich and Kathy. During that time, two other fly shops opened after "the movie". Now there is none. A real shame. Rich and Kathy are good people. So is Keith Burkhart who owned one of the other fly shops that couldn't make it and folded a number of years ago.

    I really thought a city the size of Salem could support at least one fly shop. Guess I was wrong.
     
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  12. Greg Armstrong

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    Sad tale...
    I wish them well.
     
  13. jake-e-boy

    jake-e-boy No mas

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    Sadly, I'm sure any city with a pop. over 10,000 could support a fly shop, if the internet did not exist. As stated earlier in this thread, if local shops can not "figure out" online sales, it will be a tough road ahead. Adapt or die. Thank you for sharing the article!
     
  14. TD

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    I always feel sad, angry, and hopeless all at the same time when I hear of a shop closing down. I also realize that I fear that one day the 2 shops that I buy all my fishing supplies from will one day fall under the same demise. If that ever happens I don't know where I'll get my tying materials, lines, leaders, reels, gadgets etc from. One shop I've purchased from since I was a teenager (we're talking 30 years ago here).

    I wonder what will come of the internet sales when there aren't stores that a person can visit to handle and touch and tryout merchandise before they purchase. I suppose folks will buy anyway based on reviews and other's recommendations. Perhaps once all the retail shops are closed down there won't be anything left but internet sales, what then? Will the "deals" and "closeouts" slowly become a thing of the past as the supply of closing retail shops, where I suspect the internet stores get their merchandise, dwindles to extinction?

    I can't imagine buying a hackle cape without first taking it out of the package and examining it. Or buying a pair of waders or boots without first trying them on to see how a pair of wool socks fit or if there is enough room to step over downfalls and climb out of a drift boat. Same with wading jackets, is there sufficient room for a down vest underneath? Do the zippers operate easily? I wouldn't buy a reel without first being able to see how the spool comes off and on, examine the construction and finish, see how tight the bearings hold the spool. I like to try out clippers to see how they feel in hand and how smooth they operate. You can't do any of that when purchasing online.

    Just thinking out loud. :confused:
     
  15. LD

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    Great article.....to bad so many shops close. I just see no chance for survival unless your are a destination shop or have a large internet business.