Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by orangeradish, Dec 30, 2013.
Nice. That should tow your raft without much effort
I agree with the above on the 6L...run from it. To confirm that, just head to the Ford forums as suggested above and you'll see the issues folks have had with them. I have a 7.3 and it has treated me well for 180k miles. I pull doubles with a 5th wheel camper and a 18 1/2' walleye boat behind it...or my drift boat. Have had several Ford techs tell me that the 7.3 is a tank and I can expect to get 300K out of it if maintained well.
Nice dodge! At least you won't have engine problem(the only Cummins we've had cracked a block at 30k), just transmission nightmares. Dodge has huge issues with transmissions unless it's manual.
So do the Fords
Nice choice O'Rad!!! You're going to be real happy that you didn't START investing in a 6.0L...they can get real expensive real fast...especially if you dont replace the coolant immediately with a low silica coolant and if you don't perform oil analysis religiously!
Here is a pic of mine on my way to the Skeena last fall...made it about 1/2 way there...
If anyone wants to talk 6.0L let me know...I have a lot of experience with mine. I've replaced every high failure rate item on my truck at least once...most under warranty...but now with no warranty I had to just fix it with the 'Bullet Proof' EGR cooler and Oil Cooler. Luckily I caught it thru oil anaysis and not engine failure.
One of the most important things you can do with any diesel (besides oil analysis) is to let the engine oil come to temperate before driving them...this will help save your injectors, pumps, turbos, and bearings. Just give the engine a few minutes at idle before driving. Same thing after a heavy tow...let the engine oil cool before shutting it down.
I had the same debate not long ago and also went Cummins. Mine is an '03 and I love it. Cummins has a ton of million mile motors on the road (with no rebuild - just maintenance/wear parts). I would HIGHLY reccomend joining the Turbo Diesel Register. You get a quarterly magazine, access to the website/past magazines, and the forum has tons of info (you can search that for free I think). $35 a year and it's saved me hours of headaches and probably thousands of dollars fixing little things myself. They support all years of Dodge Cummins and it's a nice little community.
I agree with avoiding the 6.0 Ford - I work in the fire service and the 6.0 medic units we run have been nothing but major pain in the butt. We have 5 (2 generations) and all have had multiple problems inside of 100k.
I think the Chevy/GMC is the nicest overall truck package and very quiet with the Duramax, but the earlier models in my price range had some known issues and were more expensive.
Christian- Are you talking about Blackstone labs oil testing or another method/company?
Yeah I use Blackstone Labs for oil analysis on my personal diesel truck engine...it's like $30 per analysis, which I do annually. I installed a sample valve in my oil pan drain to make it easy to draw a clean sample.
I'm real happy with them so far...they help me find my EGR failures before I had any real engine damage. They found traces of coolant in the oil...which queued me to troubleshoot for the source.
Just did some quick math and calculated that if you drive 20K-miles per-year, and fuel is $4 per gallon, then you save ~$1500 per year on fuel. That's nothing to sneeze at, but a few major repairs could easily eliminate most of that savings.
Once you factor in the purchase price differential + interest on that differential, taxes, maintenance, depreciation, etc my hunch is that springing for a diesel only pencils out for people who do a *ton* of highway driving and towing.
Having said that - I could be totally wrong. For those of you who own diesels and have done the math, under what circumstances does owning a diesel = saving money?
Jayb, I did some math before I took the plunge. I take my work truck home, so most of my driving is on the weekends, and most of my weekends are road trips. I hope to get a saltwater boat, mid size camper, and animals in the next few years. I wanted to avoid upgrade-itis. I almost bought a new gas f150, but it wouldn't have worked on that bigger stuff. So I got a truck that I figured would suit my needs over the next 15 years. Hopefully I made the right call... If not, they hold value well. I can always sell it in a few years if I don't like it.
Nice rig, Orad. I had a 2005 Dodge 3500 Cummins and that thing was FUN to drive empty with all that power! Pulled a 26' 5th wheel like it wasn't there. If you opt some day for a camper, watch you GVWR closely. Truck campers can get very heavy very quick, and without duallies you do not want want a blowout. Enjoy your oil burner!
Ditto on that Itchy! I tried a single wheel one ton with my camper for a few years and could not get a tire that wouldn't get side wall blow outs very quickly (on the rear wheel). Also, with the dually I can drive it at any posted speed and it corners like a car, and since I'm usually in a hurry to get somewhere, I like that a lot! Rick
This might be an option for you. 1,000 lbs. nothing needed for the truck.
I am envious of your new truck. A friend has that truck and he really likes it. It has towed his camp trailer all over WA and OR. He had the transmission rebuilt this year but he felt it served him well.
I have a small Lance, an 18' aluminum and Prams. The camper and my 18' Weldcraft are to much without serious modifications. The camper and my pram hauler are just right though and a drift boat or raft would be the same I expect. Horses and a camper are a different story I imagine! That would require serious consideration as to weight, center of gravity and stopping distances.
Here is my f250
gas guzzler on the way to Winthrop this fall. Love being able t haul 2 small boats on a trip like this.
Enjoy your new truck!