Burlington Northern Trespass tickets

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  1. jeff bandy

    jeff bandy Make my day

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    The only way to really fix this conflict is to give the railroads a waver against trespass death lawsuits. How about that?
     
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    Seems like the paths of least resistance. There are probably not enough people who care or are impacted by the issue to take action to fight the issue of RRs blocking access to public lands.
     
  3. golfman44

    golfman44 4-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year

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    Double post whoops
     
  4. scottr

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    Railroads are non-government private corporations (sometimes publicly traded) with private law enforcement sectors that are granted federal, state, and local law enforcement jurisdiction. Imagine if Starbucks had it's own police department

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    http://www.csx.com/index.cfm/working-at-csx/job-overviews/management-trainees/police-department/

    http://www.bnsf.com/communities/safety-and-security/police-team/

    http://www.uprr.com/she/safety/spcl_agent.shtml
    http://alaskarailroad.com/corporate/CorporateMain/SafetySecurity/tabid/430/Default.aspx
     
  5. jake-e-boy

    jake-e-boy No mas

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    i know for a fact one of those deaths in WA was due to substance abuse & suicide, not fishing, because it was ~20 min from Pasco about 3 months ago and the toxicology report confirmed the substance abuse part.
     
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    What a way to go :D

     
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    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

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    One has to wonder how long they can keep up the constant patrolling of miles of tracks?

    So here's the plan. Everyone show up at exactly 5:30 am. Doesn't matter where, in fact the more places the better. (And someone get Jesse!) Once you get a sizable group - rush the tracks at exactly 5:45 (as long as a train isn't coming) and scatter into the woods on the other side.

    In all seriousness, if they are going to keep the public from accessing public lands, then these lands become defacto private lands belonging to those that deny the access. I think they should pay property tax on these lands that they deny us - and pay heavily.
     
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  8. redlodge

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    What areas are they patrolling? I am thinking the highway side of Reiter and backside of Wallace would be it. They have the most traffic.
     
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    A private corporation with fed, state, and local LE jurisdiction? Now that's just F'd up!

    Oh, and did I mention, UP THE REVOLUTION!

    Sg
     
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    Loss of access to public trust property more than sucks. The human population continues to grow at a reckless rate. The number of public lakes and rivers remains constant. The number of public trust lakes and rivers accessible to their rightful public owners diminishes as private interests attempt to control and prevent you and me from getting to that public property. This is a bigger f'n deal than simply making choices, taking chances, and accepting outcomes. It's a big enough deal that if we value our public interests, we should as the body politic be shaping the outcome to better fit our interest.

    Sg
     
  11. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    This steelhead fishing is getting to be nothing but b.s. First you have to fight for the right to fish them & now there's a fight on the horizon just to get to the river. f--- it ,I'm going to take up stamp collecting & buy a ant farm for entertainment!
     
  12. troutdopemagic

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    I like how people have been crossing the tracks since they were there to fish these spots and its suddenly an issue right now.I've walked the tracks next to BNSF trucks with dudes and they never say anything but "hows fishing". I'd be willing to bet they won't keep this enforcement up for long.


    Does anyone know how much of the land along the sides of the tracks BNSF owns?

    Its also beyond me how people get hit by trains in the first place. It seems effective at thinning the tweaker herd though so I'm okay with that.
     
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    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    the reason people get hit by anything is they are not paying attention to the potential dangers. Trains sneak up on a person at a very fast rate & are very limited to what they can do for crash avoidance.
     
  14. golfman44

    golfman44 4-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year

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    The lady cop said the pebbles along the tracks are their property, and the parking lot I was in was also their property.
     
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    Hmmmmm....... I was ideally hoping that you could cross the tracks at a road crossing and walk off to the sides of the tracks without tresspassing but I don't know how viable that could be.

    That being said I'll probably keep crossing the tracks until something official comes of it. #speyfreedom