Click Pawl or Disk Drag?

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  1. weiliwen

    weiliwen Active Member

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    I got a Sage 106M as part of a combo package with a Discover II. It is both click pawl and drag, and I absolutely hate it. Too loud by far.

    I have a cheapo Cortland Rimfly that I use for my 4-weight, and it's much quieter. No drag, but I always have the heel of my hand when that's needed. It's all I need in that size or smaller.

    Both of these go "click," so click pawl is what I'll continue to call it.
     
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    GAT Dumbfounded

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    Song folks love the sound of a "screaming reel" and I find it offensive as fingernails on a chalkboard.

    Thus, I'm a disc drag man all the way. I wouldn't buy a reel that relied on noise for a drag system :)
     
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  3. LCnSac

    LCnSac John or "LC"

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    That is one of my biggest complaints, and nothing is louder than my Redington Drifts. It's embarrassing and annoying. Some sound is OK. Those things sound like a Halloween toy.
     
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    DanielOcean Steelhead Virgin

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    This thread has not got out of hand yet? Damn..............ill check in later.

    edit: I knew that when I saw the term click pawl, that salmo was gonna be here shortly to crack some skulls.
     
  5. kmac

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    Single action "click-pawl" reels are not necessary for 5-6wt and less. Above that I like an adjustable drag. I've never needed one of the high end drag systems, but... maybe if I was to go Tarpon fishing.
    As a separate reel issue. I've found myself disappointed with large arbor reels. They hold less backing and there's no way I can reel in as fast as a salmon/steelhead charging upstream. So, I end up stripping in the line. Interested in what others think about that.
     
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    I sold all my spring and pawl reels. I don't like the noise they make. When I'm across the lake (or river) slaying them, the last thing I want is to attract all that attention and have all the other fishermen hone in on my spot. ;) But seriously, I know I don't need a super fancy disk drag to catch trout (which proves I'm not a dunderhead), but, as I've pointed out before, none of us who fly fish live in a world of needs. I like the sexiness of a nicely machined disk drag reel, so that is what I prefer to fish with. Even if the drag only engages when I'm stripping off line, at least it is quiet.
     
  7. LCnSac

    LCnSac John or "LC"

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    I have two large arbors and don't like them either because they tend to get in the way on a pontoon. I like the mid arbors. Unless a fish is charging the boat--stripers do that sometimes--I rarely have to reel fast, but i thought that was one of the purposes/benefits of the large arbor?
     
  8. Roger Nott

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    I've managed to end up with 30+ reel in 45 years of fishing. About 50/50 spring and pawl vs. various disk designs. I think the OPs pros and cons are about right. I do find that with spring and pawl I just set it to prevent over spool and then never adjust, just use the spool. With disk drags I tend to "chase" the setting due to temperature variations and wet vs. dry conditions. I almost always fish with spring and pawl for 5 wt and under (trout) since 3-4 oz reels in that design used to be common and that matches up with my preferences. My disks are mostly for heavier rigs.

    Agreed. Orvis doesn't even get it right until they describe their $700 Limited CFO.
     
  9. Tim Lockhart

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    I vote for a new wff category called "Ask Salmo_g" where anyone brave enough can write in with the questions that keep them up at night. Then whatever happens happens.
     
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    underachiever !

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    I'd read that thread.
     
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    stilly stalker Tuna sniffer

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    Disc drag for anything 6wt and up.

    Below that, preference

    You're not stopping a 40lb king, tuna, tarpon, bonefish etc with a click pawl and palming rim. Or if you are, you're not gonna enjoy it.
     
  12. LCnSac

    LCnSac John or "LC"

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    It can be entitled "The Pedantic Corner"

    Click pawl, click and pawl, spring pawl, who cares, if that's the common name? Kansas is considered the Midwest, yet it is not in the middle of the west. Why not the Mideast? Because we call it the Midwest. Blah.
     
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    stilly stalker Tuna sniffer

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    I like the sound of drag screaming. Not the stupid clicking sound, but the sound that line makes as it screams off my reel and through my guides.I hate the sound of click in wind

    Sea lions know what a loud drag sounds like. So do loons, cormorants etc. the louder your clickitty click drag is, the more attention you draw to yourself
     
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    From what I've heard, the Bear in Alaska are also drawn to a "screaming reel".

    Best not to take chances. I also prefer disc brakes on my vehicles instead of dragging a stick on the road to stop :)
     
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    stilly stalker Tuna sniffer

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    Flintstones brake system!!
     
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