Confused on fly rod sizes

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  1. Akuriko

    Akuriko Member

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    if i was going to be using a 3wt,and 4wt it might be a 9 footer, reason for it like i said is i dont have but lakes and and rocky ford around here.

    anyone have any preticular brands they prefur for fly rods?
     
  2. Akuriko

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    GVX by winston? i been pondering the 5 or 6 wt passport or something from the leland fly fishing shop line possibly.
     
  3. Akuriko

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    Was the bamboo exspensive if i may ask?
     
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    The GVX is a Winston, and about twice the price of a Passport.

    The Passport is a good rod, but I just love the green blank that winston has on the GVX and up.
    Oh and the GVX is made in the states.
     
  5. Akuriko

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    I want a winston wt trout myself, just the name trout alone sings too me.
     
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    Akuriko, If you look around you can find good deals. I found someone that was making a 2wt 7'2" bamboo, and was able to get it for 300.00. I have found a used Quad. 7' 4wt in the 300.00 range. There are a lot of used ones that are great shape and price on other sites. Don't know where you are but if you look on the post here in bamboo there is going to be a gathering in Seattle area on the 26th of this month for bamboo lovers and any one interested in it. Hope this helps. If you have any more question you can P.M me and I will get back to you.
     
  7. Akuriko

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    I'm about 3.5 hours from Seattle, I'm near rocky ford creek.
     
  8. Eric Denny

    Eric Denny Summer is over but I'm still fishing!!

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    I own 2 GVX and they are great rods!! So if you have the money this would not be a bad rod to get!!! I love them!
     
  9. Akuriko

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    Any Winston rods i bet are good for the money.
     
  10. Akuriko

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    I been curious so the maximum fly rod a person should use from your cool chart is wt 10 for salmon? does that include full steelhead too on wt 10 or do you need a wt 11 or 12?

    also just curious i heard there is size 15 and orvis sells size 16, what is a size 16 for fish wise?
     
  11. flybill

    flybill Purveyor of fine hackle, wine & cigars!

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    Rods range from a 0wt to 16wt.. probably some that are bigger or unrated. 14wt or 16wt is for very big fish. There was a board member that got a 11' Mako shark on a 16wt I believe.. A 12wt or 14wt could be used for sails or marlin or anything really big that fights really hard.

    For NW steelhead an 8wt is perfect for winter fish and at 6wt or 7wt for summer fish. But to simplify all of the advice you've gotten, get a 5wt for trout and an 8wt for steelhead. That's the advice I've given most of my customers, unless they are talking about fishing a specific area, where a lighter rod may be more appropriate.

    For length, a 9' rod is your best all around length in both weights. If you fish small, brushy creeks than something a little shorter is nice.

    Just don't overthink it. If you have questions stop by your local fly shop and take a class or just buy what you can afford / need and get out there.. I'll give you a little secret.. the fish don't care what rod you have... your buddy may, but the fish don't give a crap! :)

    Good luck!
     
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  12. Akuriko

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    Thanks, for myself i have a 5wt and a 6w, i wanted steelhead and salmon since i fish fresh waters, if i ever get to the ocean i wanted to fish a marlin or a bill fish but thats later, will a 8wt catch a channel cat, walleye or pike? i was curious if a needed a shorter rod but i only fish rocky ford and the grand county lakes, this year i was planning several fishing trips so i was curious if i needed anything shorter, the rods and sizes confused me, i know people who say 5 or 6 wt is fine but then i see people say they fish there 2-4 wt and catch palm size trout and im like um you cant eat them and you must catch and release, in my eyes doesnt seem fun to catch something that small but i could be wrong, i never tried it but there is no stream where i am at yet so i keep thinking will the 9 foot rod work or do i need a shorter one for the job, then i ask myself, is there any creeks, or streams that need a smaller rod around here, so far i am scouting for those smaller streams here in grant county so i can fish small streams too, more likely this year i will need to go into the cascade mountain range to find it. Sorry i rambled on a bit, lol
     
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    Akuriko,

    Based on the questions you ask, it appears that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground, so to speak, regarding fly rods in general, and particularly what the various line weights and rod lengths are for. If you are fishing Rocky Ford and Grant Co. lakes for trout, then your first rod should be a 9' 5 wt. for the simple reason that is the most popular rod sold in the U.S. for general, all purpose, trout and pan fishing in lakes, ponds, and streams. Weights and lengths up and down from that are some form of specialization. So if you're choosing a different rod than that, you should have a reason and understand that reason. Your posts read as though you so far lack the understanding for having a reason to choose something else.

    If you have a suitable 5 wt and are looking to broaden your horizon, buy a 9' 7 wt if you intend to fish for steelhead on the dry side; or make it a 9 1/2' 8 wt if you want to fish east and west of the summit, year around. Other lengths and line wts are also suitable, but if you don't know what the fuck you're doing, then stick with these because they have been the choices of a great many experienced anglers who knew the reasons for their choices in tackle. Lean on the experience of many who have blazed this trail before you happened along.

    When it comes to choosing a brand name, that's simple. Choose the brand that makes you smile. If you're a good enough caster to appreciate how the rod casts, that's even better. But if you don't cast that well, then the smile is good enough. Price point is easy too. Buy the rod whose price is comfortable for you. There are good rods priced from $59 to $4,000, and they all work well. Making an informed choice along that price continuem requires being informed enough to understand why you're making a particular choice. Lacking that understanding, I recommend choosing a price you're comfortable with.

    Have fun and good luck.

    Sg
     
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  14. Akuriko

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    Acually as i said earlier i was trying to understand the various sizes and now i understand i asked about steelhead and salmon as i can buy rods for that, as for the 5wt i have a redington and a 6wt also in classic trout, i was curious on the sizes of others and what its fished for and so forth, i wanted to buy a smaller wt rod but unless i have the application i should put it on hold, as for the reason well no streams in the area that are small streams, eventually maybe, but i was curious on steelhead and salmon wt because that kinda confused me before you all exsplained it to me, so thank you all. :)

    also i was curious on the grounds is i fish fresh water, not salt so i was curious how heavy the wt should go to for fresh water and you also all exsplained it to me, i was about to print that chart out and pin it to my wall.

    so thank you all again.
     
  15. Nooksack Mac

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    At the small fish end: a five inch trout has no more strength than a young kitten, so there's not much point in buying a super ultralight rod and line so that you can "feel the fight."

    At the large end: I fished a 10-weight outfit for winter steelhead, because they're strong fish, and large, weighted flies feel awkward when cast on lesser rods. But 8 or 9-weight outfits are adequate for that 97% of the time.