Dean River Debacle

Discussion in 'Steelhead' started by brat, Aug 8, 2013.

  1. Chris DeLeone

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    Have fun up there SG
     
  2. Salmo_g

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    Too much office work and too little field "work" makes Sg a dull boy. About done with that nonsense.

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  3. ralfish

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    Don't have your expectations too high, back to numbers of pre 2008....
     
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    Ral, is that because of lower adult returns due to productivity/survival or higher harvest rates, both, or too early to tell?
     
  5. ralfish

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    That is the question fisheries managers have been trying to answer for the last number of years. But there is one thing we can do that we do have control of.....
     
  6. Salmo_g

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    Ralfish,

    Are you suggesting you have control of DFO? I don't think they got that memo. I think DFO is a resource extraction administration agency, wherein conservation is an occasional by-product of insufficient harvest. Weedlines notwithstanding.

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  7. Chris Johnson

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    The top fish has a net mark, the bottom fish was scarred by a seal or sea lion.
     
  8. golfman65

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    wasting your breath Ralf....

    sad...
     
  9. ralfish

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    Not a chance. The spacing is far to regular to be any animal....

    Salmo, we dont have control of DFO but we can hammer their heads into the ground and call out their BS along with the bs of the unenforced fisheries that operate out of compliance. Examples: http://www.steelheadsociety.org/new...-thousands-unwanted-salmon-are-killed-bycatch
     
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    Keep up the good fight.
     
  11. ralfish

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    Thanks .

    We all have to, if we want to pass anything on to future generations...
     
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    There is a bit of a shit storm happening over this now. As well DFO is finally being called out of salmon harvesting practices in mid and north coast fisheries. Seems to be business as usual, however various people and groups are finally calling DFO out on their blatant lies. At any rate it would be very useful for any American brother who have done the Dean this year or in the past to write letters. If any one is interested please PM me and I'll send you letters as samples, letter templates and the contacts. I can't express enough the importance of this from you guys or people you may know....This could even be expanded to include fellows who dont go to the Dean but come to BC to steelhead. ie ther Skeena or Bulkley systems to express your concern regarding the lack of proper 3rd party observation of the commercial fleet and adherence to lawful fishing practices let alone best practices and the amount of money you spend in BC participating in her once world class catch and release wild streelhead fishery.
     
  13. ralfish

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    OK so one person has stepped up and is writing a letter. That is great.

    Common Golfy and others, I have sample letters you can paraphrase from etc... the government listens to $ and its you guys dropping the $$$ so step up if its wild steelhead that you value...you dont have to be a Dean regular, at this point, the way DFO is managing the commercial salmon fishery, steelhead everywhere are taking a beating...
     
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    Ral, send me whatever templates you have and I'll forward to a bunch of folks I know. Either PM me or find my email on our website.

    Thanks.

    Sg, do you feel that DFO significantly differs from NOAA in their respective role? If so, how? If not, what are the similarities?
     
  15. ralfish

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