Fishing with flies, but not fly fishing

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  1. Rob Allen

    Rob Allen Active Member

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    I rarely fish stillwaters but when I do I prefer callibaetis.
     
  2. Jim Speaker

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    Then you must only fish a hatch for an hour or two in the Spring or Fall and go home. Pity.

    Given that you have such an affinity, I suppose your box is well outfitted with the two variations, Callibaetis ferruginous hageni, and Callibaetis fluctuans, and you know the difference and fish the appropriate pattern given the waters?
     
  3. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    No unicorn in it's right mine uses a bobber. They only use dry flies to catch rainbows.
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    Occasionally they'll break out the tweed before galloping down to the river.
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    Imagine what kind of brain lock a dry fly aficionado might go into if he ran into someone with a sticker on their stripping basket and while fishing with a jig.....I meant clouser.
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  4. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    no shame in saying it, most people nymph to put up the numbers. even when the dry fly bite is way on, we still see most people nymphing. not leaving that comfort zone. we all fish for different reasons.
     
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    And Stonefish lays down the....
     

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  6. Jim Speaker

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    F that hydro, nymphing deep can put you on the fish that don't give a shit about the insects hatching a-way-up-there. Your statement is a complete misconception and a terrible generalization.
     
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    Fishing by trolling or casting with only fly rod, fly reel and fly line combination with an artificial fly or cast of artificial flies attached, and does not include the use of spinning, spincasting and casting rods and reels and lead core line. Answer: What is Fly Fishing as defined by law in the State of New Hampshire Alex....

    Correct.

    Sent from my little square phone thingy...
     
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  8. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    in theory yes, less mystery, but more casting dependent. in nymph fishing, casting is a means to an end. with the dry fly, the cast is the end. most people dont see what the fly is doing when the cast doesnt put it where they're looking. especially with the little stuff that brings fish up for extended periods, and through a much longer season. how many are using the reach and curve cast neccessary to mend the line and get the drift when they can find their fly anyway.
    the cast, man, it all comes back to casting. and who has time to bother with getting proficient at that anymore ?
     
  9. Nick Clayton

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    Are you not the one stating that you could catch just as many fish using dry flies? I believe you are.
     
  10. Nick Clayton

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    My bad, apparently I was confused with another thread. But you recently stated that you could catch just as many fish with dry flies, whether it was this thread or not is irrelevant.
     
  11. Jim Speaker

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    You've got to be f'ing kidding me.

    Don't generalize "most people," for starters. Just because one is nymphing doesn't mean they don't have a damn good idea of where their fly is (unless they suck at it).

    And, the notion that "little stuff... bring fish up for extended periods, and through a much longer season" is just a clear declaration of ignorance. I use this term not in a deprecating fashion, but in it's actual meaning, "to ignore." Innocence can be described as doing or thinking something because one doesn't know better, the information simply isn't available, but ignorance is doing or thinking something despite the fact that the information is freely available to them.

    The notion that "little stuff that brings fish up for extended periods, and through a much longer season" is ignorant. Sorry, man.
     
  12. Randall Clark

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    this has to be one of the dumbest things I've read on here.

    the casting is a means to an end regardless of whether or not you're fishing dries, nymphs, streamers, jig...I mean intruder or whatever. I'm guessing this person is the guy who false casts thirty times before laying down that size 18 BWO where a single backcast would have done quite nicely...oh, am I generalizing too much? sorry 'bout that...
     
  13. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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  14. Jim Speaker

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    Your post was rather hard to read given that you had everything in the quote, but despite that I slogged through it.

    Pffffft. When the fish switch from male to female tricos, or when you can't get a bite because you're fishing the wrong calli variation, don't whine to me. My fly box is closed to you, pal.
     
  15. hydrological

    hydrological beads are NOT flies and snagging is just ghetto

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    how would you feel if i also told you the earth was round ? how much do you mend when throwing that size 22 trico ? you mend it before it touches down, or you sink it and drag it. there'se no thingamabooberyou can watch when you cant see yor dry fly.