Fishing with flies, but not fly fishing

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by kmudgn, Apr 13, 2014.

  1. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    i'm also a bit confused how discussing whether one or two fishing methods are actually fly fishing means that anything but dry fly fishing is now not considered "true" fly fishing. i guess kicking the crap out of young kids soaking worms and fathers fishing spin tackle leaves little time for anything but casting upstream with dries.

    anyone know a good therapist? i've learned that my dislike of bucktailing is a symptom of deeper issues and i need to work out my issues. i've heard something about an adipose complex....
     
  2. JesseC

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    Look - we've been through this a thousand times. It was my wife's bag of spices. How it got into my bugger barn and spilled to hell all over the place I don't even know. Kids man, yeah, that's the ticket. Those kids!
     
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    Oh, by the way. Here's a history lesson for the hob nob silk line hold outs, who are the only ones apparently still fly fishing.
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    Look at that mardi gras parade of silliness!

    Do you think trout went after those because they looked like the hatch? Nope. It's because trout are dumb as hell. You could literally swing one up with a mini bic lighter with a stinger hook on it if they were in a feisty mood.

    You know what really matches the hatch in a lot of pnw rivers?





























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  4. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    hairbrush hatch?
     
  5. psycho

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    Gees JessseC all the flies from my really young years ( 7-12 ) but even by twelve I was starting to stray from the path and throw cork poppers for bass. Growing up in north central Ontario there were lots of different fish to try chicken feathers on and most of them feathers sunk. I quickly found that sunken feathers caught a lot more fish than when they floated on top, plus dressing silk lines to keep them floating was a hell of a lot of work.:D Keeping gut leaders damp was also a chore , I was really glad when monofilament came along.
     
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    Geezus, this thread is still going?

    If fly fishers can't figure out what is really flyfishing, it's no wonder that fish and game departments have such a hard time determining what the hell is flyfishing and what isn't.
     
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    Yeah, but if you would have used them while fly fishing, you would have been more effective. Some people like you just like to challenge yourself more to protect the resource. Thanks for that.
     
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    Luke77 said:
    One word... Anise. LOL

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    Look - we've been through this a thousand times. It was my wife's bag of spices. How it got into my bugger barn and spilled to hell all over the place I don't even know. Kids man, yeah, that's the ticket. Those kids!

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    Mixed in your head cement...works nicely ;)
     
  9. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    good post Jesse.
     
  10. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    I don't care whether dumb trout will strike at these but I do believe every fly fisherman should have a shadowbox of these on the wall.
     
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    shockingly, those still work...


    Always have a couple of Alexandras in my box...one of my favorite trout wets (oddly, works for steelhead too 'cause steelhead are dumb).
     
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    I have less an issue with someone wanting to discuss symantics as I do when they take a very holier-than-thou, "may way is gospel and everyone else is inferior" type approach.
     
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    I have a problem when the holier-than-thou crowd can force a change in regulations for a flyfishing only river that requires you use their favorite technique for fishing and all other flyfishing techniques are illegal to use.

    There is such a flyfishing only steelhead river in Oregon.
     
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    Some of our moving waters I would like to see upstream dry only, not because I think that is the real fly fishing but to leave some room to fish.
     
  15. Chris Bellows

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    was it the holier-than-thou anglers or the nymphers not rotating through runs (lack of etiquette) that caused the rule change?

    chicken or egg?

    honestly, the two places that i can think of with staging summer fish below a trib have had rule changes due to nymphers. the umpqua and the closing of the deer creek pool on the stilly in the 90's. maybe it is the holier-than-thou elitists.... but maybe nymphers need to take a look in the mirror at how their actions cause these issues. and you can still nymph the n. umpqua just not with weighted flies or indicators.
     
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