How far should I be casting?

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  1. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    Depends on whether you are fishing lakes or running water. Running water I'd cast 40' or less as mending longer lines gets trickier. Lakes.... bazooka that cast out there. Chronies under indicators in lakes... 30' (to the indicator) is good enough.

    Make sure you casting is good enough to minimize wind knots and the fly getting tangled in the line.
     
  2. PT

    PT Physhicist

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    Travis Bille Active Member

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    Are you simplejack?
     
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  4. Kent Lufkin

    Kent Lufkin Remember when you could remember everything?

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    Only as far as needed to catch fish. The vast majority are caught at 30 feet away and closer.

    K
     
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    Nooksack Mac Active Member

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    As you can now tell, there are a lot of factors, and a lot of things to learn. Here's one: the double haul is an intermediate/advanced technique that, in effect, adds a turbocharger to your tackle. It lets you cast significantly farther with any rod and line. It needs a competent teacher and practice to develop "muscle memory" (which is probably more mental than physical).
     
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  6. PatrickH

    PatrickH Active Member

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    Thanks for all the helpful advice from everyone. I know it's about placement and it all depends on the water and all that, but I was curious as to how far I should be able to cast with the type of equipment I have, not as in how far I should I be casting when I fly fish.
    Like if you where a really good caster and was just going for distance just for the fun of it, how far would you be able to cast with a 9ft 5 weight setup. Since I'm new, I'm not sure if 50 feet is far or if it was possible to get 90 feet.

    I mentioned possibly needing a different rod because watching my rod tip, it seems to be really floppy and not being able to keep my line as high off the ground to get more distance. I'm sure I am probably doing something wrong or I was just maxed out? From where I stand, I can get my fly out to about 50+ feet.
    Some places I have fished I just flip it out and be in a good zone, but some river I have gone to I need to get out farther. I don't have waders.. I probably shouldn't even be bothering to fish those spots, but for right now, I mostly go out for the practice.

    Thanks for all the info from everyone, it's good information for me and my learning. I will read up on those links posted and maybe talk to some of the guys at Cabela's and see if they can take me out back for some fly casting lessons. I don't get out that often and I don't knwo anyone who fly fishes to learn from.. So I watch Youtube videos and try to remember parts when I'm on the water. I have one fishing partner and he just used his fly rod for the first time yesterday.. haha. He's learning from me :p He does ok though, but I think we need to be on a smaller body of water or at least a different time of the year.

    Lot's of learning to do..
     
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  7. triploidjunkie

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    When my girlfriend first started fishing with me, before I let her use my gear, she was using a basic beginner setup. Something like an SA outfit in a seven weight she borrowed from her stepdad. After about six trips out she was positive her rod wasn't casting like it should. I grabbed it, took one or two backcasts, and layed out eighty feet. I was surprised how much punch it had.
    Now after three years, she lays out some line,and rarely smacks rocks on the backcast anymore. Which accounted for many,many lost flies.
    So I guess what I'm trying to say is it to just keep on keeping on. It will all fall into place eventually.
     
  8. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    100+foot with a good 5 wt is doable for a good caster. If your last name is Rajeff then 250ish is more like it
     
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    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    And Anil from PS fly co in Tacoma would be a better person to talk to than some guy stocking shelves at cabelas. I believe he's a certified master casting instructor and he has a shop full of rods and lines that you can cast. Seriously though, support local fly shops please.
     
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  10. PatrickH

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    The fly fishing department at Cabela's in Marysville has actual fly fisherman and fly tiers. Tacoma is like 2 hours away..

    Steve Rajeff has some cool videos, thanks :)
     
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    Krusty Krusty Old Effer

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    Generally, when I start seeing the flyline backing appear at the rod tip, I've got enough flyline out for decent casting distance....

    But...I'm just bullshitting. I agree with what other posters have already said; especially the suggestion that keeping the fly in the water the greater period of time is advantageous, and that the quality of cast is far more important than distance. Flailing water with frequent casts is not productive....unless your objective is simply to practice casting.

    I'm primarily a stillwater fisherman...mostly I go to the fish, rather than attempt to reach them with a very lengthy cast. Of course, with a stealthy kayak approach it's rather easy, since I don't have big dumb float tube frog legs flapping around below the surface to scare the fish. I just drift in, sitting on top of my big plastic log.
     
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  12. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    Ahh, I thought you were talking about the one in lacey or whatever. In that case stop by pacific fly fishers in mill creek, or any other fly shop. Trust me the guys in cabelas working a job in a fishing section of a sports warehouse, versus the guys who eat, sleep and breath flyfishing are in two totally different leagues. Or don't trust me and keep going to cabelas. Last time I was in cabela's fly section a few years back, the guy asked me what weight pole I use. If you don't get that, then cabelas is probably just you're style.
     
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    DanielOcean Steelhead Virgin

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    The problem with those guys though is that they will do there best to sell you the Cabela's brand stuff first, which really pisses me off. I went through a Cabela's faze and since got smarter. I purchased a new spey rod today. Cabelas had the same rod, was closer to me, and I had a coupon that would have knocked 20 bucks off the price.
    I still decided to buy my new rod from Pacific Fly Fishers. Ben, Joe, and Michael are A++++ dudes. Heck Ben spent half an hour just bullshitting with me at there casting pond while I tried out spey rods. Never once did he suggest the Cabelas LSI either!
     
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    Wait.... what weight do you use;)
     
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    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    Many years ago a local steelhead fisherman of note Al Kundsen told me "put your money in your gas tank, fancy gear don't catch fish fishing does". If you spend enough time fishing your casting distance & fish catching will improve with time & experiance
     
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