I wasn't aiming that at you Kent, I'm sure you'd never do such a thing. It just blows me away people do that. I was taught never to kill anything on purpose, unless you planned on eating it. That being said, I give the"ol'montana handshake" to all tench I catch now. And squawfish in a certain watershed that they almost destroyed, even though they are native. And that was at the insistence of local bios.