if you think of puget sound as one large estuary, it doesn't surprise me that by the time they get to the actual mouths of rivers and creeks they would be more lock-jawed than estuaries closer to major feeding grounds. even in the puget sound "feeding" grounds the fishing changes for boat anglers the further you get from the ocean. this means less surface activity the further you get down the strait and the gear guys fish deeper progressively down the strait. why is bucktailing so good on the coast and progressively gets worse the further you get into puget sound? even the difference between neah bay and sekiu is massive and the difference between sekiu and port angeles is roughly comparable. most offshore fly guys that i know do not worry about using stingers on sub-surface flies because frankly they are not necessary with super aggressive fish... where the beach guys almost always fish them to stick soft biting fish. fishing pressure likely does have an impact, but i am still not convinced that biting is a genetic trait passed on down the generations. i believe that if you removed the pressure, the bite would improve regardless of the previous generations non-biting parentage. i think you combine massive pressure from the moment they enter puget sound, plus a longer estuary time-frame, and you get less aggressive fish.... or it is all the fishermen sore-mouthing the wild fish down the west coast of vancouver island, neah bay, and sekiu? interesting thread.