looking for stillwater caddis help

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Entomology' started by tkww, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. Irafly

    Irafly Indi "Ira" Jones

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    The Chan is a good one and I completely forgot about the carey as well. Heck between the Doc and the Carey for a few years I didn't use anything else. Then I discovered the dark side of Chironomiding. I've been gone awhile but I'm slowly comming back.

    Ira..

    Looking forward to that PM
     
  2. TD

    TD Active Member

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    I tie a lot of Carey Specials. :)

    They also work as a damsel nymph as does the 6 pack.
     
  3. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    I once trimmed down a # 12 Doc Spratley in an attempt to imitate some Black Gnat emergers at Failor Lake, and it worked! That lake can get some good chironomid hatches. The adults look like black gnats. I have yet to get into fishing chironomids vertically, but I'll cast an emerger or black soft hackle to the risers.

    I also have seen hatches of small dark brown (almost black) caddis going off there along the brushy shoreline on many occasions.
     
  4. Taxon

    Taxon Moderator Staff Member

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    Hi Jim-

    If they had formed a mating swarm when you observed them, they were probably Black Dancers of genus Mystacides.
     
  5. Pat Lat

    Pat Lat Mad Flyentist

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    I was on a lake last summer and there were swarms of what looked like size 10 black caddis flies, When I looked them up I found out that these ones were actually alder flies. they have dark brown or blackish wings that are very veiny looking,

    The info I was reading on them was that its probably better to go with the drowned form of the fly, pretty much any winged wet fly as long as its black.
     
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    Hi Pat-

    Yes, that certainly sounds like an alderfly.
     
  7. Preston

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    Here are pictures of an alderfly and my soft hackle imitation which has nailed a fish or two. Unlike caddis alderflies are not able to float and if they fall or get knocked down onto the surface they struggle a bit and sink and drown. Sometimes I grease my soft hackle a little, just enough to allow it to float, low in the water, for a short time while twitching it to simulate a struggling alderfly DSCF3664.JPG DSCF3655.JPG
     
  8. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    Thanks Roger. Those were smaller, around size 14, I think, and a darker brown than the pics of the Alder Flies. (Thanks for the link, and also much thanks to Preston for his pics).
    I have also seen some larger dark brown ones in early summer at the same lake that might be Alder Flies, since those ones looked about size 10.
    I'll have to study them all a little bit closer this coming spring and summer.

     
  9. Jeff Dodd

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