NFR Malaysia Flight 370

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  1. Lugan

    Lugan Joe Streamer

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    I don't know what happened, and I won't arm-chair guess. But I do like this approach to using data and statistics to find the aircraft: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-statisticians-could-help-find-flight-370/

    One thing that amazes me is the lack of simple GPS tracking of this (and probably many other) aircraft. I mean, I can buy a SPOT Messenger for $99 or any number of DeLorme or Garmin devices for a little more and my family always knows where I am in remote wilderness. It's surprising that a 777 had no such always-on mechanism that is tamper-proof by anyone on board.
     
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  2. generic

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    Well Lugan, that's why it has the world all in a "tizzy". There are 4 major tracking devices on all commercial aircraft.

    For all 4 to quit tracking, they have to be manually turn off systematically. A "catastrophic" failure, would not render all 4 inoperable.

    Such in an accident, the failure to turn them off systematically, sends out a "distress signal" or warning (for a lack of better words).
     
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    Malaysia Airlines Expands Investigation To Include General Scope Of Space, Time
    ‘Why Are We Even Here?’ Officials Probe
    NEWSNewsISSUE 50•10 • Mar 13, 2014
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    Assuming the actuality of wavefunction collapse, Malaysia Airlines officials say flight MH370 could currently be located in any possible alternate future.
    KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA—Following a host of conflicting reports in the wake of the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 last Saturday, representatives from the Kuala Lumpur–based carrier acknowledged they had widened their investigation into the vanished Boeing 777 aircraft today to encompass not only the possibilities of mechanical failure, pilot error, terrorist activity, or a botched hijacking, but also the overarching scope of space, time, and humankind’s place in the universe.
    The airline, now in its fifth day of searching for the passenger jet carrying 239 passengers and crew, has come under fire for its perceived mishandling of the investigation, whose confusing and contradictory reports have failed to provide definitive answers on everything from how long the missing plane remained aloft after losing contact with air traffic controllers, to whether the flight made a radical alteration in its heading, to the very dimensions of space-time and the nature of reality, and what exactly it is that brought us into existence and imbued us with this thing we call life.
    Additionally, the airline confirmed it had expanded its active search area to include a several-hundred-square-mile zone in the Indian Ocean as well as each of the seven or 22 additional spatial dimensions posited by string theory.
    “We continue to do everything in our power and explore every possible lead—both Cartesian and phenomenological—to locate the aircraft as quickly as possible,” said Malaysia’s civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who went on to say that authorities were still actively seeking tips from anyone claiming knowledge related either to the flight, or to the mechanisms by which consciousness arises, or to the question of why anything physical and finite exists instead of nothing at all. “At this stage, we can’t rule anything out: not crew interference with the transponders, not a catastrophic electrical failure, not the emergence of a complex topological feature of space-time such as an Einstein-Rosen bridge that could have deposited the flight at any location in the universe or a different time period altogether, nothing.”
    “Could a parallel universe have immediately swelled up from random cosmological fluctuation according to the multiverse theory and swallowed the flight into its folds, or could ice have built up on an airspeed sensor? Those are both options we are currently considering,” Rahman added. “Everything’s on the table. That is, insofar as anything exists at all, which we’re also looking into.”
    Rahman assured the press and families of passengers that officials would not rest until they locate the plane, provided that sensory experience can be verified beyond the existence of one’s own mind. Malaysian authorities also cautioned that they were dealing with an unprecedented aviation mystery and that it could take months to ascertain the airliner’s exact fate as well as, for that matter, the fate of mankind itself, assuming a linear theory of space-time in which the future is unknowable and objects travel in a forward trajectory which, authorities hasten to add, is not necessarily the case.
    In addition, airline sources attempted to assuage an uneasy public by noting they had brought in top crash investigators from the Malaysian, Vietnamese, and Chinese governments, as well as U.S. Navy personnel, Boeing technicians, leading quantum physicists, theoretical cosmologists, metaphysicians, epistemologists, and determinist philosophers to help scour all conceivable and as yet inconceivable locations in which the plane might be located.
    “The bottom line is that we have a sophisticated aircraft fresh off a safety inspection with no prior incident of malfunction, flying in good weather at a cruising altitude,” Rahman continued. “Why didn’t the pilot send a distress signal? Why aren’t we finding a debris path? What are we to make of the contradictory radar information? Where did the universe begin and can it be said to have a limit or an edge? What is mankind’s role in it? Is there a God? If so, what is God’s nature?”
    “It’s too early to answer these questions right now, but I can assure you that Malaysia Airlines will get to the bottom of it,” Rahman added. “Our top people are on it right now.”http://www.theonion.com/articles/malaysian-airlines-expands-investigation-to-includ,35524/
     
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  4. Lugan

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    Here is yet another seemingly plausible explanation: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/

    An electrical fire caused the crew to shut down electrical systems (including all the tracking systems) and try to make it to another airport (explains the left turn). They lost the battle to smoke inhalation, died, and the plane just kept flying into the Indian Ocean until it ran out of fuel. Who knows...
     
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    These kind of stories/events really get my interest, so I started learning about the 777. Holy Guacamole are those things sophisticated!!! This kind of thing just doesn't happen to jetliners these days, especially after 9/11. I realize that a plane hasn't disappeared like this before, although a France airliner went missing for a couple years, but the electronic systems on these things are mind blowing! You really have to know the system to make a jet disappear like that.

    However, your thoughts were discussed as well, but any trained pilot would first contact the tower, to send a "May Day" - and even then, the engine "pings", along with (some gadget I don't recall its name) would still send out signals.

    Everything points to the "proud" Maylasian government not sharing info. There's little to no doubt that someone was in control of the plane. I just think it's sad that the "powers that be" are being so arrogant, and not giving out the info that is needed.

    Charlie Rose and BBC World news did interviews with a few men that have held the positions of command in situations like this. Their take is, they believe that the Malaysian officials never dreamed this would get out of hand, and probably thought they could deal with it themselves. Have you seen the interviews with the Malaysian guys... :rolleyes: They look lost and embarrased/stunned.

    Have you noticed that more and more information (not speculation) but actual facts have "trickled out" about the jetliner? I think the world (and other governments) are forcing their hand to cough up that info.

    Geez, I'm almost with Sg.... it could be parked out back with the hi-jackers underarrest. The Malaysians just didn't want anyone to know how weak their security is, so they came out with a "we lost it" story - and now it's out of control. :D
     
  6. GAT

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    What's the big deal? This kind'a thing happens all the time inside the Bermuda Triangle.

    Maybe the triangle moved... no one has come up with that theory yet :)
     
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    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    I asked a commercial pilot friend about his opinion of the mystery and the above scenario is one he explained to me. He also said he'd like to know how long the plane remained at 45K as that act might be designed to give the plane additional flight distance (less fuel is used at higher altitudes).
     
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    Having lived in that part of the world in a previous life, I would replace "proud " Malaysian government with "incompetent".
     
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    From an article I read, cell phones won't work at 45K feet and above... satellite phones will but that function can be turned off by the crew. The article also indicated that cell phones will not function if you're traveling faster than 150 MPH.

    The altitude and speed would keep cell phones fro operating and the crew could have turned off the satellite phone function.

    In all likelihood, this was all planned but to what end is the question.

    And if it was planned, something may have gone wrong and they crashed anyway.
     
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    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    So they could've taken the plane up to 45K in order to disable the phones, increase the flight distance and by depressurizing the cabin either kill or render unconscious the passengers and attendants.

    Whoa, scary thoughts!
     
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    Alien abduction.
     
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    I do feel bad about the friends and family of those on the plane. They may never know what happened to their loved ones or why. That is sad.
     
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    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Not to side track this "discussion" but rustybee has the best avitar so far.
     
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    Dude... Don't hijack a hijack thread. :p
     
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    Jimmy tied in the oval office too.