Discussion in 'Patterns' started by SaltyCutt, Mar 1, 2012.
just a thought, theses all look very fully dressed, with pink fry especially think sparse
I agree, sparse is a good thing. However, every time I get to see and handle fry I realize they have width and height. The chum fry in the photo is 3 inches long. It is maybe 1/2 "tall" and at least 1/4 inch wide. The other photo is of pinks. They are somewhat smaller, maybe 2 1/2 long and thinner and shorter than the chum. The photos were taken this past Sunday. Last night I was reading a book I just received, "Fly Patterns Of British Columbia" by Art Lingren. I noticed that many of the patterns tied by our Canadian brothers are indeed sparse. Sparse is good to keep in mind.
It's a tough battle Full vs. Sparse... and sparse is generally a better idea. I will say that after looking at these fish up close, I agree with Jack, they are pretty substantial. I am happy with how my fry pattern looked wet and I was able to hook up with multiple Cutthroat on Sunday, and although I thought it was a little full, they didn't seem to mind.
This is the latest version of my Pregnant Guppy. More sparse and a bit shorter than previous versions. Hook: Gamakatsu SP11-3Ll3H size 8, Thread: monofilament, Body: Rainy's 1/8-inch foam parachute post, Wing: green Flashabou, green Krystalflash, black Krystalflash, Eyes: stick-on. The foam is tied in at the rear end of the hook shank, stretched and tied in at the front. The wing is tied in, the eyes are placed and secured with a turn of monofilament and coated with Softex. The rear of the foam is trimmed to a point and the front is trimmed at a blunt angle.
As often as not, the fly will float on its side, not bad for simulating an injured salmon fry.
Jackd, one of my favorite books. I am constantly amazed about how small and sparse many successful BC are. Thanks for sharing the photos. They don't fully capture the brilliant glow of the silver Pink Fry body. I have decided to pick up some Silver Krystal Flash to tie up some new tubes.
Preston, thanks for sharing the Pregnant Guppy again. One of the best topwater fry ever. I will be fishing some this weekend in an estuary where we fished Chum last fall.
what materials were used
Craft fur tied in as four progressive clumps (short,longer,longest,medium), mirror krinkle flash for lateral flash and a peacock angel hair topping. Hold in shape and dip the head in softex,allow to set, then place the eyes and dip in softex again.
Not sure if this thread is still open? Anyway, here are some of the fry patterns I have been using since June. Been working real well on the cutts. As time goes on, I find I have had to increase the length of the fly to keep up with fry growth. Last week, for example, I was fishing in the Port Townsend area and was able to get a good look at two schools (twenty or so in each) of juvenile pinks. One of the schools actually took a rest in my wading eddy and hung below me only two feet away. The fish were already well over four inches long. Whether they are seeing chum or pink fry when they hit these flies I don't know. I think they just see FOOD!
All the slight variations in the ties have produced. I think the eye is a real convincer if they have any doubts. The red gill/bleeding gill I think helps too. Its fun.
I dredged up this thread looking for ideas for a Kokanee fry pattern. Those flies Jack D posted (post# 38) look like they'd work, especially with the blue. Very nice flies, Jack! Right now, I'm thinking I might tie some up about 3" long and fish 'em for Beardslees at the crack of dawn on Lake Crescent.
Also, i am wondering about a flat-wing Kokanee fry pattern. Might be a good one for Lake Crescent Kokanee eaters, at first light. The late Doug Rose wrote about Lake Crescent in his Fly Fishing Guide To The Olympic Peninsula, and he mentioned that stomach sample surveys indicated that the trout there over 20" feed exclusively on Kokanee or Kokanee fry.
I've read that the lake has a healthy Kokanee population.
Might head up there again later in the week. Local conditions are looking good this afternoon and tomorrow for a variety of my favorite local venues, so I can stay here now and be doing what I like without burning any gas or wasting time on the road.
Jim, thanks for finding this thread. Up here lots of fry pinging around, tried to tie a guppy and variation.
Those look good, Tony. By the time I get back up there, I might have to troll a 4" pattern! That's if I can get launched and be fishing by first light, in hopes of fooling a larger Beardslee. That's the only time you can find 'em up on top, as I understand it. As it gets light out, they head down too deep for effective fly angling or streamer trolling.
I'm going to try to come up with a 3" kokanee fry, first. Then I'll make a couple of bigger ones.