NFR: No Solution, just dead kids...

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Go Fish, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. speyfisher

    speyfisher Active Member

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    OK , so with all the effort directed towards curbing driving under the influence, as well as the effort to discourage the use of tobacco, why is it then that, in the US, more people are killed by either of these two than with guns? Most any state in the union asserts that driving is a privilege. which they have the right to regulate. Smoking, same thing, by the feds. Gun ownership on the other hand is a right protected by the U.S. Constitution.

    That document is the only thing standing between the U.S. being a democracy, democratic nation where the majority rules as some would lead you to believe, and a Republic. Of course, that may be news to some of the younger generation that were not taught Americanism in school,,,,or at home.
     
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    Enough. You are right. Shut it down Jerry.
     
  3. gearhead

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    there are more people who own cars than own guns, and cars kill far more people than guns.

    we are a Nation that "manufactures mental illness and depression" its a friggin industry here, and we (not me) always looks to blame somebody or something else for our own actions or the actions of others.
     
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    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    "One of the darkest days in American history". -Brian Williams

    The NRA has no comment at this time... what a lame organization.

    UPDATE QUOTE: "Until the facts are thoroughly known, the NRA will have no comment."
     
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    Cheeseburgers kill more people a year than guns, from fat people with heart conditions to people eating them while driving and getting distracted, yet no cheeseburger ban. I personally feel we need more stringent cheeseburger laws.
     
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    Roper Idiot Savant

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    OMG Larry, we agree, I, a gun owner advocate, think the NRA has it's head up its collective ass...!!!
     
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    SteveA Gnu to the board

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    No choosing to believe, or not. Was just interested in your claimed facts. Discovered one "fact" was in fact, false. The other I couldn't verify.

    I don't get my facts from forums or blogs of any kind. If I did, I would now believe that President Obama was responsible for rising ammunition prices, in part because the practice of allowing the sale of spent casings from military use "was ordered stopped by the Obama administration".

    The desire to believe something true is not enough to make it so.
     
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    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Oh heck Roper, I agree with a lot of things you post! Believe it or not. I was going to note your earlier post ...something about banning guns. I don't think anyone mentioned that on this post on this thread but, maybe I didn't read it. Don't misunderstand me, I have been interested in buying a handgun, one of these days perhaps. I need more flyrods instead! I think one simple thing is for all gun owners to "LOCK" those things in a safe place so any one of those crazy family members don't get there hands on them. (and we know everyone's got some crazy family member!!!).........
     
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  9. Chris Bellows

    Chris Bellows Your Preferred WFF Poster

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    When you can kill me with your cheeseburger, you might have a point.
     
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    I feel like guns are easy to blame but the issue that we need to deal with is the epidemic of broken and fatherless homes.

    Ban divorce. It would do more to stop this garbage.
     
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    Go look up how many accidents happen while texting or eating and driving.
     
  12. Go Fish

    Go Fish Language, its a virus

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    Thanks to those that put some thought into
    this issue and posted ideas for change.

    The mental health issue was one I hadn't
    considered and maybe the biggest reason
    for this horror. However the easy access to
    weapons, stolen or purchased, seems to make
    this problem even worse. The ability for most
    anyone to own a gun makes me nervous. I
    know people that shouldn't even be out in public
    let alone own a dog.

    Dave
     
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    Well for my part i am going to step away from this. Like many if not all of us, i hit the roof when the number went from three dead to almost thirty, absolutely devasting, for me, so i cant even imagine, what those families are going thru, just f-ing terrible. i guess having this soundboard, as an oppurtunity to vent, fight, squabble etc etc, is a heck of alot better than punching holes in the walls of my house because thats what i still want to do.
     
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  14. Brian Miller

    Brian Miller Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting Cutthwoat Twout

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    I am so saddened. My Dad was mentally ill; I love him and I miss him. Living with mental illness is something I will never forget. Some of the institutional treatments he endured in the 50s were barbaric. My brothers and I were given BB and 5mm pump pellet rifles but there were no firearms in our house, for a very good reason.

    Back on my knees...

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    I'm heartbroken for those families. I'm a gun owner and believe in the right for law abiding citizens to keep and bare arms. With that said I'd melt every one of mine down if I thought it would save a single child, or spare one parent that anguish. But I honestly don't don't believe gun control is the answer, but I do think it's time for all of us on both sides of this argument to have a civil discussion about what is possible, what makes sense and what might prevent this in the future.

    I don't pray often, but I do pray that those families find some comfort.
     
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