"Rediscovering" Old Patterns

Discussion in 'Fly Tying' started by Thom Collins, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. Jim Speaker

    Jim Speaker Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2005
    Messages:
    2,226
    Likes Received:
    531
    Location:
    Mill Creek, WA
    Home Page:
    Anyone know where to buy True Orange floss? Ya know, the color that you'd swear is kinda yellow but it's not?
     
  2. psycho

    psycho Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2007
    Messages:
    638
    Likes Received:
    330
    Location:
    B.C. Canada
    I have that book down in my fly book library.:D
     
  3. GAT

    GAT Dumbfounded

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2012
    Messages:
    7,183
    Likes Received:
    5,268
    Location:
    Willamette Valley, OR
    When I first started fishing The Metolius in the 70s, the guy who owned the restaurant/fly shop claimed a black Stove Pipe was the pattern to use. I'd never heard of one before. I bought a few and had marginal success with the things.

    I never bothered to tie my own.

    Decades later I was fishing The Met and found a Stove Pipe with a variegated black and olive body on the bank. Evidently it dropped off someone's drying patch.

    I tied it on and started catching trout like crazy.

    So, I did tie up some of these simple guys.

    The Stove Pipe:

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Jim Ficklin

    Jim Ficklin Genuine Montana Fossil

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2008
    Messages:
    3,945
    Likes Received:
    2,185
    Location:
    Columbia Basin
    I have "The Fisherman's Encyclopedia" (also the "Hunter's" version) that passed to me when Dad left this world & went fishing in the everlasting. There are a treasure of old methods, photos, info, history, & color plates in both. Copyright is 1950, 2 years after I arrived. Here's a few more old trout patterns:
    Professor, Quill Gordon, Silver Doctor, Queen of the Waters, & the venerable Mickey Finn and Robert Page Lincoln streamers.
     
  5. GAT

    GAT Dumbfounded

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2012
    Messages:
    7,183
    Likes Received:
    5,268
    Location:
    Willamette Valley, OR
    I know a guy who used a Queen of the Waters on The Deschutes during the salmon fly hatches and it worked quite well for him. I never took a look at the pattern... guess I should have.
     
  6. Steve Vaughn

    Steve Vaughn Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Messages:
    346
    Likes Received:
    64
    Location:
    Richland, WA
    I would add the Tupp's Indispensable; and excellent pattern for the eastern Sulfur hatches. I think it was the use of a few strands of red seal fur in the yellow dubbing. Gives the fly a real depth appearance.

    Steve
     
  7. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

    Joined:
    May 6, 2008
    Messages:
    3,821
    Likes Received:
    1,389
    Location:
    Moses Lake, WA
    McNasty likes this.
  8. Thom Collins

    Thom Collins Active Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    59
    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
    Hope you posts some pics!
     
  9. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

    Joined:
    May 6, 2008
    Messages:
    3,821
    Likes Received:
    1,389
    Location:
    Moses Lake, WA
    Jim, You might consider joining the married wing fly swap.
     
  10. Gary Knowels

    Gary Knowels Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    1,270
    Likes Received:
    580
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    I haven't rediscovered anything as they are new to me, but I've been using simple floss bodies partridge soft hackles a lot lately and they have become my most effective flies. I like to hang them as a dropper off a bushy dry when fish are rising, or behind a heavy point fly while indicator nymphing. Such a simple and effective fly, and I can tie them in no time. Here's to hoping I never forget about them.
     
    Jim Wallace and Thom Collins like this.
  11. Preston

    Preston Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2004
    Messages:
    2,834
    Likes Received:
    945
    Location:
    .
    Here's one from "the book" (Pacific Northwest Fly Patterns; published and sold by Patrick's Fly Shop over a long period of time, I think my edition is from sometime in the sixties). The Puget Bug: Roy attributes it to Enos Bradner, from 1954.
    IMG_0796.JPG
     
  12. Jim Speaker

    Jim Speaker Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2005
    Messages:
    2,226
    Likes Received:
    531
    Location:
    Mill Creek, WA
    Home Page:

    That is one seriously fishy looking fly. Love it.
     
  13. bitterroot

    bitterroot Love vintage graphite!

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,129
    Likes Received:
    212
    Location:
    Montana
    So far, from the Patricks book I've tied...
    Black spook ★
    Pauls grey hackle ★
    Swamp angel
    Big hole demon #2
    Red dragon

    The ones with a star have caught fish. Have yet to try the others.
     
    Jim Speaker likes this.
  14. Thom Collins

    Thom Collins Active Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    59
    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
    I've been tying something nearly identical minus the biot tail for about 10 years. Guess I'm naturally old school. Good!
     
  15. Thom Collins

    Thom Collins Active Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    203
    Likes Received:
    59
    Location:
    Kirkland, WA
    Weighted?