Article Snakes on a plain

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  1. Keith Hixson

    Keith Hixson Active Member

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    Read that Rattle Snakes don't like high altitudes. They are rare above 4500 -
    5000 ft in elevation. Come to think about it, don't believe I've seen a poisonous snake above 5000 ft.
     
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    I spend the summer along the Yellowstone River in Paradise Valley, about 35 miles north of Yellowstone National Park. We are just under 5000 feet elevation, and have plenty of rattlesnakes all around us. I can't speak to other places and elevations, but here they seem to do just fine.
     
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    Great read to say the least. Only saw one once and that was a very long time ago. That said, lived in/near Santa Rosa, California and played golf at the local course. Beatiful fairways/greens/etc., and sighs in the 'ruff.'

    DON'T GO HERE!
     
  4. Keith Hixson

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    I read another article that said that in the Rockies that rattle snakes have been seen as high as 9,000 ft. But in most places they don't care for high elevation of over 5,000 fit. In the Blue Mtns of Oregon there are plenty of rattle snakes but I've never seen them in the Wallowa Mtns higher elevations. The East Slope of the Cascades have plenty of rattlers but I've never seen them at the higher elevations. Could be the Rockies sub specie is more tolerant of altitude than other rattlers? Would make for an interesting study.
     
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    I've seen more than a few in the Blues, but like Keith, never higher up in the Wallowas (perhaps not the best comparison as the Blues are lower in elevation than the Wallowa Mtns). I'm guessing it's because for much of the Rockies, it's a drier environment and gets warmer during the summers for them (i.e. still more of a desert-type of environment rather than your typical mountain-type, just at a higher elevation)...
     
  6. Keith Hixson

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    I lived in Newport, WA for 8 yrs. They say there aren't any Rattlesnakes in Selkirks. I never saw one. Maybe its too damp for them. Yet Back East they have rattle snakes in New England and that is a harsher climate than Colville and Kettle Falls. Another interesting study. Why aren't there any Rattle Snakes in the Selkirk Mtns?
     
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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the king of our local forests: the mighty timber rattler. I've had a few encouners, and you don't soon forget them. I ran into one near Republic a few years back that stetched completely across the logging road I was using. When I came around the corner I thought a big tree branch was blocking my path. When I realized what it was I nearly had a hear attack.
     
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    I have seen rattlers around Grand Forks, last year a lady that I had one in her yard. A friend and I took it back up into the mountains, it was only about 18 inches long.
     
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    I've been backpacking/hiking for years and years... never come across a Timer Rattler, or heard of anyone seeing one either. Sure it wasn't a big Bullsnake? I don't think Timber rattlers live west of the Mississippi, except maybe around Texas. But a Bullsnake will leave a nasty bite, none-the-less.

    I love snakes, and chase down every rattler I see! I've stepped on half a dozen or so and have been struck, but not bitten. Sure gets your heart rate up!!! As mentioned before, the one in my avatar struck at me a couple times, before sliding up into that crack.

    However, after watching that program on Netflix... I've decided not to try and pick one up anymore.
     
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    If by "our local forests" you really mean "East of the Mississippi"...there is a reason no one has mentioned the "mighty timber rattler"

    The only rattlesnake you'll find in WA is going to be the North Pacific Rattlesnake (a subspecies of the Western Rattlesnake). Here in Oregon we also get the Great Basin Rattlesnake (just a different subspecies of the Western Rattlesnake), which could conceivably range up into SE WA, but doubtful...
     
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    Even snakes are afraid of snakes.

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    Several years ago I hiked in and up a stream about 4 miles by myself in rattlesnake country. What are you supposed to do (by yourself) if you get bit in a situation like this and need to get back to your car and civilization? Do I kiss my ass goodbye? Or what? Seriously, I would like to know.
     
  13. Vladimir Steblina

    Vladimir Steblina Retired Forester...now fishing instead of working

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    They don't like cold. We have a place at 3000 feet, but it is a cold air pocket. No snakes. But don't leave meadow!!

    Anybody want rattlesnakes can come over and get them out of my garage.
     
  14. Keith Hixson

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    Makes sense to me.:D
     
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    Hmmm... I guess what the old timers call timber rattlers around here aren't, but I don't think they are the typical viridis, either. I'll have to take a herp up with me to get DNA/scale samples. It says that the largest documented rattlesnake in the northwest was only 59 inches!? I personally killed three bigger than that, and have seen ones over eight feet. My biggest was over seven feet, and bigger around than my forearm. These big ones are a solid, dark green and are only found in the woods, not the desert. Hence, why everyone around here has always called them timber rattlers. Now I'm curious to find out if they're a subspecies of viridis or an all together different species not documented yet. All I know for sure is those big ones are tasty!
    Hey Kaiserman, anytime you want to go snake hunting for these big boys let me know. I know of a few den areas.