So how about chum...

Discussion in 'Saltwater' started by doublebluff, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. doublebluff

    doublebluff Go Beavs

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    I've waited as long as I can to start talking about them...

    I just wanna catch one. I've read a bunch of stuff on the forum from years past. Help me think about timing, flies, strategy, how to avoid "net days"...

    I will be coming up from Oregon to get one in the Salt, I hope.
     
  2. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

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    Think floating line, long leader, sparse flies, VERY slow presentation, and don't be afraid to get away from the color green. Cerise and purple is your friend.

    At least that's what worked for me last year, which was my first year targetting them with the bug rod
     
  3. JayB

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    I've played the floating/long/sparse with a slow retrieve with forest green and/or chartreuse flies (for the most part) and have had a hell of a time getting these fish figured out over the past 3-4 years, despite putting in god knows how many hours of fishing.

    Sounds like you've had way more success, so I'll go ahead and ask - how slow of a retrieve are we talking about here? Care to share any info on specific patterns (I feel like I've tried them all and then some, but I'm always interested in what's worked for other people).
     
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    Think something like a lightly weighted, sparse comet. I retrieve at a "casual" pace compared to the frantic pace of coho retrieve and fast and poppy pink retrieve.
     
  5. Nick Clayton

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    What I found was that it was imperative to find schooling fish. I learned not to waste my time blind casting to water that had jumpers. I would find a school, try to cast to intercept them,, then a reteive that was slower than I could stand after a few months of chasing silvers. Faster retrieves just seemed to scatter the school and cause foul hooks.

    As far as flies I pretty much caught all my fish on two flies.... a chum turd in cerise/purple combo, and a basic soft hackle type fly with a flash wrapped body, a small amount of ice dub, then a couple wraps of hackle. I liked purple hackle and chartreuse ice dub combo the most.


    There was a great chum thread last year where we talked at length about these fish and posted several pics of these flies and recipes. Ill see if I can find a link
     
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  6. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    Where is going to be opened?
     
  7. Dipnet

    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    According to my journal the chums showed up here near ????? ????? on ??????? ? last year. I'm tying right now in prep. 

    Edit: After listening to the criticism of the specific where and when info I'd initially posted and much contemplation of those complaints, I've redacted said information. I do see how such specificity could be upsetting to folks who enjoy this particular fishery and I grant you the validity of your criticisms.

    Tight lines all
     
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  8. Nick Clayton

    Nick Clayton Active Member

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    Fishing journals are a great way to maintain a written record of such details.


    Internet forums are not always the best place for such details.
     
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    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    Nick, I understand the philosophy that one shouldn't divulge too much info on the web and I generally try not to. But it's no secret that there's a large run at Chico and who the heck knows when they'll show up this year?

    For those that enjoy combat fishin' and watching the snaggers, they're welcome to fish there.

    That's not my cuppa tea. I go somewhere else to target the same fish and that's my secret! ;)
     
  10. Nick Clayton

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    In today's age of huge fishing pressure and very few unknown fisheries, timing can be the biggest secret of all.

    I've got my eye on a couple off the radar spots this year. I hope yours pays off well for ya.



     
  11. mtskibum16

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    Dick move.

    OP, I suggest you dig up the big chum thread from last year. Good stuff!
     
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    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    I spent 42 years working in the sportfishing industry and I've developed my own opinions about what info I should divulge or hold close to my chest.

    I like putting out "teasers" to folks new to the game so they might be able to catch a fish but I'm not about to give up all my "secrets"!

    I find that part of the joy of fishing is being able to introduce new folks to the game and if it takes dropping a hint or two, so be it.

    Just my 2¢!

    I hope your "off the radar" places are packed with hungry fish also!!
     
  13. Dipnet

    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    Ya wanna clarify the phrase "Dick move"?

    I'm not sure I understand your post.

    Edit: Sorry mtskibum16, I've always enjoyed your posts but your phrase kinda yanked my chain and for that I apologize. I don't want to sidetrack the OP's purpose of this thread. Feel free to PM me if you want to hit me over the head with your favorite bug-rod! ;)
     
  14. Daryle Holmstrom

    Daryle Holmstrom retiredfishak

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    Don't think you can target chums right now
     
  15. mtskibum16

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    I thought it was pretty obvious. Mention a well know spot, sure, but in general stuff like specific run timing is often the "secret" of a given location. It's something locals spend lots of time scouting in hopes of a few unspoiled days withouts the hordes. Eventually the word gets out and people start showing up.

    Without any more specifics, many of these chum runs are known as "Halloween fish" and that's when it starts getting busy. Hopefully you understand what I'm saying....