Tying wax

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  1. Jack Devlin

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    OK Dave,
    When we talk of tying waxes there is definitely more than one type; thread wax, dubbing wax, and wax for silk etc. Have fun.
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    Be careful of the resin, it's HIGHLY flammable and smells strongly of pine when heated up...
     
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    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Tim, thanks.
    I found this in my notes:

    Tying Wax.

    70% Rosin (ordinary violin bow, pitcher's mound, rosin)
    20% Beeswax
    10% Castor Oil

    Dubbing Wax

    50% Rosin (ordinary violin bow, pitcher's mound, rosin)
    10% Beeswax
    40% Castor Oil

    TC
    I believe it is your post, yes?
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    Tim Cottage Formerly tbc1415

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    Yes that's it. The previous post I linked to also includes a finger wax.

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    Tim and Jack, thanks for sharing the link and recipe. It is a big help for someone like me. Dave
     
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    Tried making tying wax yesterday based on the info from Tim and Jack. Used the 721C. Found rosin at our local music store for about $4. They had the super $6 kind but it already contained some castor oil and beeswax so went for the cheaper that was only rosin. Our coop has 100% beeswax for another $4, and also small containers of castor oil (100%). Took the warnings on pans to heart so raided my old backpacking equipment for a couple of pans that had not seen the light of day in years to make the double boiler. Used the paper cupcake holders for the molds. I weighed everything on a line scale I have. Heated the water until bubbles just started to appear and added all of the ingredients to the second pan and it had all melted within 10 minutes. It was very, very easy and the results turned out great. Now have two small cakes of tying wax. The most time-consuming part was the drive over to the coop in Moscow to get the wax and castor oil.
     
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    At one time I used tying wax but have stopped using the stuff. If I'm tying a dry fly with coarse material, I use a paste type floatant. For everything else, I've found a fingertip moistener called Gatherette is all I need. Gatherette is sold at office supply stores. It dries quickly on your fingertips and isn't nearly as messy as tying wax.

    If you use the split thread technique or a dubbing loop, you don't need any tacky stuff with the dubbing.
     
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    Way to go Dave. Making you own tying and fishing supplies is fun and satisfying. You might consider making your own fly and line floatant. There are many formula out there but perhaps the easiest one is Albolene (a moisturizer) and mineral oil. Both can be found in major drug store chains in the cosmetic departments. Just add the oil to the Albolene until the viscosity seems about right. I have heard (unsubstantiated) that this is is how Gink is made. For about 10 bucks you get three lifetimes supply. As soon as I run out of my current bottle of Gink I will be trying it.

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  10. zen leecher aka bill w

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    I've been looking at making some wax also but never figured out where to buy the rosin. Thanks for the tip. I also like the tip on the cupcake holders.
     
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    Dave,
    Your report has warmed the cockles of my heart.
    Jack
     
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    Gene, do you use the Gatherette on silk? That is what I am making this wax for. I hardly ever use dubbing wax anymore because, like you said, I use split thread or a dubbing loop or just lick my fingers (except for the yellow fur discussed on this forum).
     
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    reusable silicone cup cake holders are good too, in fact anything silicone. I got some ice cube trays from ikea for 99c, they make 5 long sticks of wax....the cupcake holders run for about $10 for 4 or 5...not hard math to figure out which is better deal....
     
  15. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    Hmmm.... closest IKEA to Moses Lake is 180.81 miles.... Same problem I had with getting the stools for the stripping baskets last year. But I will look for silicone molds for food items.