Wear Sunscreen!!

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  1. Golden Trout

    Golden Trout Active Member

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    I have read that skin cancer rates are at their highest in places like England and lowest in desert areas like Arizona. The data below indicating "Island" county as one of the highest in the State and Washington one of the highest in the nation might lead one to this same conclusion since most people live on the cloudy side.

    just the facts: Skin Cancer in Washington

    ■Sunburns. A 2004 survey found that 43.6% of white adults in Washington had at
    least one sunburn in the past year.5 Sunburns are a significant risk factor for the
    development of skin cancer.6-8

    ■New■Cases■of■Melanoma. The rate of new melanoma diagnoses—responsible for
    75% of all skin cancer deaths—was 35% higher in Washington than the national
    average from 2001-2005 and was the 5th highest in the U.S.9,10 An estimated 1,900
    state residents were diagnosed with melanoma in 2008.2

    ■Island County has one of the top 10 rates of new melanoma diagnoses among
    counties nationwide, 130% above the national average.11

    ■Deaths■from■Melanoma.■Approximately 175 people in Washington die of
    melanoma every year.12 Washington had the 16th highest melanoma death rate
    nationally from 2001-2005—7.4% higher than the U.S. average.13
    Skin■cancer■is■the■most■common■cancer■diagnosed■in■the■
    United■States.1-4 This fact sheet presents statistics about skin
    cancer for Washington and the United States as a whole.
    Melanoma■Death■Rates,■■
    2001–200512
    All■Races,■Both■Sexes,■All■Ages
    WA
    Melanoma Deaths per Year
    per 100,000 People
    3.1–3.4
    2.6–3.0
    2.1–2.5
    1.6–2.0
     
  2. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    Scary stats there, GT! We Washingtonians take a lot of vacations to tropical climes in the winter time, and often come back with sunburns.
    I think we minimize the hazard in our own minds here in coastal WA and Island County due to the generally cooler weather, too.
     
  3. Rob Ast

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    Larry, hope all goes well with the treatments. Remember, when you kiss a fish it doesn't care what your lip looks like :)

    I am in the full cover-up camp. I wear long sleeve SPF shirts, uv Buff, hat, and buff gloves to cover my hands/wrists. Even with this I will put sunscreen on my face/ears/neck in case the Buff slips. The Uv clothing can't wash off like sunscreen, and I'm exposed to fewer of the chemicals in the smelly goop.
     
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  4. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    According to my dermatologist, melanoma is most commonly found on the back if you are a male and the back of the legs for females.
    Both of mine were on my back. My back looks like I've been in a knife fight......
     
  5. dryflylarry

    dryflylarry "Chasing Riseforms"

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    Yeah, Thanks Rob. Hopefully the screams you hear on the beach are me, with a coho hooked, and not the pain from my bleeding, burning, itching, peeling, splitting lip!!! :)
     
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    You are absolutely correct Old Man! Cancer is like a wound that doesn't heal, as if your immune system tolerates it in its infancy.
     
  7. IveofIone

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    Larry, I hope you get through this allright. I have had the same thing and the scars to prove it, the treatment was painful. And thanks for bringing it to the attention of others, many of whom are rather macho and chauvinistic about their own vulnerabilities. No one is tougher than the sun.

    I take a lot of precautions these days and so far so good. I wear big hats and bought one of those long brimmed solar block ball type caps also. I buy the biggest Aviator model FitOvers sunglasses which give me great wraparound coverage and keep any sun from coming in the sides. They look like welding goggles but man do they do the job. And the sunscreen I use is Banana Boat Kids which is tear free, sting free and most importantly fragrance free. It is SPF 50 and looks much like clown white when first applied. For a few minutes you'll look like you are going to a rock concert or a Raiders game but it soon blends in. I suppose few adults use it because it says KIDS on the tube but the fragrance free part alone is worth the price. And always carry a buff. Once you do get burned the best thing that I have ever used for relief and healing is Vitamin A&D ointment. I haven't gone out without this stuff for 50 years now. It is just as effective on the slopes of Mt Mckinley as it is on the Deschutes. Smear some on after a burn and see how fast you heal.

    I sure hope that lip can be saved bud. Some of the cigar smokers on here are going to get a similar cancer but might lose some lips in the process. They'll have a big smile afterward but they won't be happy.:D

    Ive
     
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  8. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I'm not really that asshole I make myself out to be. I don't stay out in the sun long enough to get a sun burn. I'll tan up because I don't stay in the sun long. I have yet to be sunburned yet this year. I've had my share of sunburns. Once when I was a kid I was so sunburned that my shirt was stuck to my skin. I was to young to remember it. Another time I was about 24 and my first wife used to make he own suntan lotion. She smeared it all over me and we were swimming in the salt at Picnic point. All that wasn't sunburned was when I had on my swimming suit. I was in pure misery for a week.

    I never felt the need to use sunscreen. Maybe I should as I could prolong my life another 50 years.

    Now when I go fish I will have something else to wear instead of just hand lotion and bug spray.
     
  9. Robert Engleheart

    Robert Engleheart Robert

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    Good to hear you caught it early Larry. I always figured I'd be the one to get it, spending 25 years outdoors as an ironworker, 15 in California; have had a few "pre-cancerous" removed, but nothing serious. The wife has never been a sunworshipper, but she's the one who gets the bad kind; MOHS surgery on her forehead and they're watching one on her lip. BTW, if anyone needs surgery, this is the ONLY method I'd consider:
    http://www.melanomafoundation.org/diagnosis/surgery.htm
    Don't make the mistake of thinking that as a PNW resident you are not a candidate(as mentioned earlier by Alex), my neighbor in Alaska died from it.
     
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  10. Dipnet

    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    Please don't disillusion all your fans, OMJ!! ;)
     
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  11. Jim Wallace

    Jim Wallace Smells like low tide.

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    4 mm and 5 mm neoprene blocks the sun pretty well. I'm about to slather up with Neutrogena "beach defense" broad spectrum SPF 70 with "helioplex." Says its water resistant for 80 minutes.
    Swell period is rather short, so I'll be paddling like some kind of monkey to get back outside after a ride, so 80 minutes is about right.

    Hey Ive, that Banana Boat Kids sounds pretty good, but please read the label and make sure that it doesn't have any "vitamin A palmitate" in it. I have read that it is an ingredient that may make some people's skin more susceptible to burning and cancer if its applied before one goes out in the sun. Its one of those things that one should apply afterwards, when one is going to be in the shade.

    I read the label on my tube of Banana Boat, saw that it had vitamin A palmitate in it, and then tossed it in the trash. Then I bought 3 different containers of Neutrogena, each a little different. SPFs 45, 70, and 100. I also bought some Bullfrog SPF 50 that has a lot of titanium dioxide in it, and leaves a white goopy mess on my face, which I often forget about, and then remember is there after I wipe my hand over my nose (only wear that stuff when surfing).
     
  12. Dipnet

    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    Because I used to be an active climber and backcountry skier (before bad hips put me out of the game) I would go to a dermatologist every year for an all-over exam.

    After retiring and going into a different medical plan I've sorta put that off for the last few years. Been thinking about goin' back in for a skin exam but have just been thinkin' "ahhh....I'll do it tomorrow"!

    So thanks for the reminder, Larry! I'll contact my primary doc today and see who she'd recommend for a dermatologist and make an appointment.

    As far as sunblock, didn't I recently see that one of the consumer review companies, Consumer Reports maybe?, recommend a couple of the less expensive ones? IIRC, one was a Wal-Mart brand and the other was from Target.

    Edit: Ah, found a link for that info: http://pressroom.consumerreports.or...buy-more-protection-from-harmful-uva-and.html
     
  13. Stonefish

    Stonefish Triploid, Humpy & Seaplane Hater

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    Tim,
    Thanks for the link. Interesting they mention continuous spray sports. That is what I've been using for about three years now. I like that it isn't greasy and doesn't run when you are sweating from hiking.
    It dries quickly after being applied and has worked very well for me. I fished nearly 12 hours on Saturday with no issues. We had that hazy marine layer most of the day but those types of days will still fry you if you aren't wearing sunscreen.
    SF
     
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    Dipnet The wanted posters say Tim Hartman

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    Glad to hear that you like that stuff, Brian. I'm heading to Oahu and Kauai in September and was thinking of taking some of that stuff along so thanks for your input.

    Yikes! 12 hours of fishing!!

    Man, you're a machine!!! :D
     
  15. Yak

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    I am susceptible to sunburn on my lips and been using a product called Labiosan for years. Similar to Zinc oxide but its not easy to find. Ski shops used to carry it but now I get it online. Give it a try for lip protection.