Why is everyone selling Sage One's

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by William Wallace, Feb 19, 2014.

  1. Patrick Allen

    Patrick Allen Active Member

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    I just throw away all my old Sage rods. I figure if I can't cast a 2 wt. 100 feet then nobody can.

    I too have always wondered about people selling brand new SAGE rods. I have a couple but bought them used and they seem to work just fine.

    I took the advise of Salmo G I think one time when he said to try the Cabela's three forks rod. I think I paid like $ 49.00 for it and it is the funnest 3 wt. I have ever had.

    Patrick
     
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  2. Red Arch

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    What I dont understand is why Sage chooses to release a new rod series every year. While it is great for people like me who like sales, rod technology is not like bow technology. A rod you bought 5 years ago is not obsolete. Like really whats so "great" about the one over a z-axis?
     
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    Marketing.

    Sage is known, by far in my opinion, the experts on this strategy. Just look at the amount of money they spend on "getting the word out" about their new and up coming products. I met a guide on the river 2 years ago (who jokingly mocked) the sales rep pushing the inside sales guys at his fly shop, to get the word out on their "latest" rod.

    It's nothing new, but if you're good at it.... it creates $$$, and that's all that matters to them.

    Compare them to Winston. Up until about 2 years ago, they wouldn't change their rods for 5 or 6 years.
     
  4. MarkY3130

    MarkY3130 Active Member

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    This thread got me thinking about the rods I have obtained over the years. I realized that the only rod I bought new was a bass pro shops $75 rod that was my first rod.

    Like others have said, I don't know where or how people get these new condition Sage rods but I sure do like buying them from them! I really really like my Sage One and would love to buy more in different wts for the right prices.


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  5. DimeBrite

    DimeBrite MA-9 Beach Stalker

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    A couple possible reasons:

    Buying a Sage One as a trout rod (below 6 wt) seems like overkill; more technology than needed to get the job done in most instances. I can see why someone might resell their 4 wt. I doubt you will see many 6, 7, or 8 wt One rods up for sale by their rightful owners, especially those who fish the salt. The lighter weight is a big advantage.

    Many fly rod resales are stolen equipment. Maybe the new Sage rods are a popular target?
     
  6. Rob Allen

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    saving money for Sage number 2
     
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    ..and speaking of "getting the word out".. new Sage models coming in August.
    There, I 've done my part in creating some hype...
     
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  8. Kyle Smith

    Kyle Smith DBA BozoKlown406

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    Four of my favorite rods are Scotts from 20 years ago. They put a lot of feel into the cast, and they look truly handcrafted. They have proven to be quite durable as well. These four artisanal, internal-ferruled beauties cost me a total of less than one new high-end rod would. I don't care about a warranty, because I'm really careful.
     
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  9. little rod

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    Let me say the "ONE" is a fine rod. I threw it and liked it for the short to medium length casts. The longer casts however, the rod seems to buckle. I was told you cannot muscle the rod.
    Headhunters fly shop did a shoot out with the One and a Hardy. I thought it was interesting they had the same results and used the same terminology "buckle" If you can make those long casts and can reach those risers your friends can't reach, you won't like this rod.
     
  10. Steve Kokita

    Steve Kokita FISHON206

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    Maybe another reason could be like me....I caught the bamboo bug, can't and won't ever recover from it! My plastic rods are collecting dust...including my Sage!
     
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  11. William Wallace

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    Little Rod,

    Not sure which one they were casting but I cast the 9'6" 5wt and well would be nothing to cast the full line and more. Now the 10' 5wt was not as power full or should I say consistent for me, but who really is going to cast a full line all day long? I like the 9'6" to 10' and the ONE, I really liked out of all I have cast in awhile.

    As you said you can not muscle the rod. Short crisp stroke, keep tip high, stopping at 12 O'clock lower to 1 o'clock, double haul forward, again keeping tip at around 10 o'clock on forward and shoot, easily I was able to shoot line consistently with extreme distance with the 9'6" 5wt. It was natural for me to cast.

    If I could afford I would buy it in a heartbeat.

    William
     
  12. zen leecher aka bill w

    zen leecher aka bill w born to work, forced to fish

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    You could hint it would be a good retirement gift.
     
  13. bennysbuddy

    bennysbuddy the sultan of swing

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    They are in bussiness to sell fishing tackle, people buy the new stuff because they think it will make them cast better, The truth be known a shitty cast is still a shitty cast ,no matter what rod they use
     
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  14. William Wallace

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    Zen,

    During the Lynwood show I was going around to all the dealers letting them know that I was retiring and things would be a great gift!

    Well I came out empty handed!

    Still going to hit up George Cook for a Sage ONE! I tried Allen, Hardy, Anderson and cant remember all, it was a try!

    William
     
  15. JesseC

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    Honestly - the ONE is an awesome rod. People who don't agree either don't like fast rods, or they exhibit a typical poverty mentality and hate everything they can't buy. Fine.

    One pretty big problem with the ONE is that it really feels way better overlined by at least a line weight. Sage and Rio really need to figure this shit out and stop messing around. It's maddening. The Sage 5wt requires a 6wt SA line. However, the Rio Gold is known to be a full line weight HEAVIER so it'd match up. WTF.

    This is the one major complaint I have with Sage. They need to use industry standards on this shit. I bet half of the rods on the classifieds are from people who can't cast an underlined ONE and don't feel like committing to trying a bunch of lines to dial it in.

    Too bad - once you do find the "magic" line there isn't a rod that compares in performance and accuracy. They're little cannons.
     
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