WSDOT gets the Bridge Open!

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Kelly Michelsen, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    Messages:
    5,901
    Likes Received:
    1,526
    Location:
    Edgewood, WA
    The bad news is that it will be removed if they don't get the state budget deal worked out :D.
     
  2. Kelly Michelsen

    Kelly Michelsen Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2010
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    38
    Location:
    Wenatchee, Washington
    I know that sometimes it takes months to get a permit and federal fish windows, state fish windows,
    environmental assessments, and if you are dealing with the BNSF 6 months to just get a permit. I am
    an Inspector on a lot of projects, I don't pretend to know what all it takes in the Design phase, but I here about it. I am glad for all the precautions for the environment and fish and wildlife. but the nightmare of paperwork is daunting even on a small projects, not just for the environment and fish and wildlife, just the paperwork involved in the normal process of a project. If there are multiple agencies involved it can really
    get mired down quickly especially the USFS. I hope that helps.
    Kelly Michelsen
     
  3. Porter

    Porter Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2003
    Messages:
    6,985
    Likes Received:
    844
    Location:
    Kenmore, WA, USA.
  4. FT

    FT Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    Messages:
    1,292
    Likes Received:
    150
    Location:
    Burlington, WA
    Kelly,

    Your post gets to the heart of what I was talking about. Multiple agencies, all who require their own paperwork, even if in the end what they want is what some other agency required, just in a slightly different form to satisfy their own paper reviewer/creator. It makes no sense to me to have each agency require the same things to be submitted in their own paper format and forms. The amount of time and cost to do so adds considerably to the price of a repaving or bridge replacement, as well as causing it to take much, much longer to get completed and in use.
     
  5. constructeur

    constructeur Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    Messages:
    1,615
    Likes Received:
    539
    Location:
    Seattle, Wa
    Mate, then shouldn't you be thanking the employees of Guy F. Atkinson, Pacific Pile and Marine, R.W. Rhine, etc. as well? At the end of the day they're the ones that actually assembled the schedule/fast tracked materials, mobilized immediately, and did all the physical work.

    Don't get me wrong, it takes a whole team to get these things done, but shouldn't you then thank the whole team?
     
    Chris Johnson and wadin' boot like this.
  6. PT

    PT Physhicist

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2003
    Messages:
    3,874
    Likes Received:
    1,042
    Location:
    Edmonds, WA
    That wasn't the point of the thread. The point was to congratulate WSDOT and tell everyone on the outside to STFU about WSDOT.......

    Pretty sure we all know how what it's like to work for an incompetent boss so in that regard I feel your pain. Not sure many of us know what it's like to run a business that is over budget and late on every project so in that regard the agency has earned their reputation.
    I'm ecstatic this project went as well as it did. Again, that's what happens when the project is strictly about rebuilding a portion of a bridge. Bring 520 and the tunnel in on time and under budget and I'll start the thread congratulating WSDOT. Hell, I'll buy a round for everyone participating in this thread if either are the case.


    Pretty sure I've poked the snake enough........ :)
     
  7. _WW_

    _WW_ Fishes with Wolves

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2005
    Messages:
    2,401
    Likes Received:
    1,230
    Location:
    Skagit River
    Okay! I'm joining this thread on the outside chance there is a free drink at the end...:)
     
  8. jersey

    jersey livin' the dream

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    315
    Likes Received:
    117
    Location:
    sonoma county