NFR Your Seattle Mariners.

Discussion in 'Fly Fishing Forum' started by Old Man, Apr 20, 2014.

  1. Gary Knowels

    Gary Knowels Active Member

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    Shad,
    Some of the increases in performance we've seen from ex-Ms on new teams has to do with ballpark as well as team fit. Beltre is the shiniest example. We overpaid for a right handed pull first fly ball hitter to play in THE worst hitter's park in the league. As soon as he goes to Boston and every long fly out to left in Seattle becomes a double off the monster or Texas where the wind blows out of a warm air park with small dimensions, he looks like a hall of fame guy again.

    I don't buy in to a lot of the ideology theories that people like to throw around. I think it is much simpler than that. While the scouting, drafting, and trade results have gotten rave reviews at the time from people in the business, nearly all of them in the Jack Z era haven't panned out. Some of that is bad luck (see all 3 of "big 3 pitchers" hurt right now) but some of that has to be the people in place that are teaching in the minor leagues. Only 1 out of 3 pitchers drafted in the 1st round make it to have a 5 year career in the bigs. The track record across baseball is much better for batters, but not in Seattle. Smoak was a top proscpect with Texas, Montero the Yankees #1 prospect, Ackley was "guaranteed to hit", and it keep going. Something is happening in this organization that guys perform well in the minors, get promoted, look promising, but then can't hit. And I'm pretty certain that its the fact that none of them can hit big league level off-speed pitches. Minor league instruction needs to change to fix this.
     
  2. Olive bugger

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    You guys are way too critical of the Mariners. Early season or no, they are just seeking their comfort zone. The basement.
     
  3. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I think I started this thread because not to many were going out and going fishing. We had a few good reports but not to many and this is a fly fishing site. Sports seems to stir up a lot of talk about how bad they are vs. how good the are. I'll probably watch them again tonight as Felix is pitching. He does good. And then his relief undoes it for him. Or maybe I'm just bored.
     
  4. jake-e-boy

    jake-e-boy No mas

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    suck it you band wagon jumpers, streak broken!
     
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  5. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler Not to be confused with Freestone

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    I think they're just still hung over from the Seahawks party. Knowing their chances to have a parade were about as good as Seattle's Big Dig project coming in on time and under budget, they doubled down.
     
  6. IveofIone

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    There is no bandwagon to jump off of. The Mariners have won just 44% of their games over the past 10 years and attendance has dropped by almost a million and a half in that span. If there was a bandwagon getting off would be a good idea. It was a bad ride.

    Ive
     
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    I'l accept an increase in taxes to move them out of town. Seattle is not a baseball town.
    Tt
     
  8. CLO

    CLO It's not the fly, you suck.

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    Mariners fans after the first week:
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  9. Paul_

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    One of you guys needs to jump off and make room, I'm jumping back on...
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    If they finish out around .500 I will be a happy camper.... due to the fact i will be camping and not watching a mediocre ball club.
     
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  11. there doing alright again, anyone want in on that cool aid again?
     
  12. IveofIone

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    Uh-Oh-sounds like that Dave Simms flavored Kool Aid has become addictive......
     
  13. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    I'd rather drink Bottled water over Kool Aid.
     
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    Spring or filtered or spring filtered?
     
  15. Old Man

    Old Man Just an Old Man

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    Don't be so choosie.

    After I wrote this. It got me thinking. When I was a kid I used to drink out of a garden hose or the household tap. My wife makes her coffee from the house tap but she wouldn't think of drinking the water from it. I guess she figures that if it's boiled and heated it kills what ever is in it..

    Dillon gets most of it's water from springs. They used to get it out of Rattlesnake creek and then they filtered it.